Among my present stack of projects is a PaK 36r. I have a PaK 40 and PaK 97/38 in the usual mid war camo. To break the monotony I am thinking of one from Sicily or Italian mainland. How many, if any of the DAK guns made it out of North Africa? And (if so) would they have been repainted? Or maybe just had green added real quick to the DAK camo? I'm leaning towards left alone, between time constraints and the DAK camo would probably work pretty good in Sicily/ Southern Italy.

Tropen camouflage applied to Italy as well as Africa. In fact tropen camo was authorized for a lot of the Mediterranean area. No repaint was required other than maybe a disruptive color over the base.

It is believed, and borne out by photos, the 10th Pz Div used RAL 7008 over the RAL 8020 when they arrived in Tunisia and saw how temperate the climate of northern Tunisia actually was.

the pak 36r was a captured Russian 76mm gun...modified to take Pak 40 ammo.The Germans captured thousands of these guns ...they also used them in some of their AT Vehicles. Marder II etc....
ICM makes a good Pak 36r....the Tamiya desert Pak 36r is the ICM kit with Tamiya figures. My 2 cents....

I read something that questions PaK 36r in North Africa. It implied that plenty of FKs and Marder mounted Paks. Any clues on units in Italy using the Paks and what color scheme? On the subject of PaKs, anybody know about PaK 97/38s In the Channel Islands and users of the PaK 37t?

Then there was the Diana - a Pak 36 (r) on a Kfz 6 halftrack in North Africa.

Was the Diana a PaK or a FK 36r? Photos I've seen look like the FK ... long barrel, no muzzle break.

Without wishing to sound like a first grade schoolteacher, guns have a muzzle BRAKE. It's very commonly mis-spelt as "break", but there's nothing broken about it.

Apologies again but it's called a BRAKE because its effect is to act as a brake on the recoil of the barrel by deflecting some of the muzzle blast, and therefore recoil force, sideways. If you look closely at some designs you can see that the vanes are angled backwards so that the deflected blast is actually pulling the barrel forward.

Peter, you KNOW us Colonists don't speak / write English.

Aaargh!!! My local access to paints is pretty much limited to Hobby Lobby ..... nearest real model shop is about a 10 hour drive!! They have a small selection of Vallejo "Model Color" paints. I managed to find RAL 8000 ... #70-879 .... listed as green brown. Looks about right in the bottle. One source says RAL 7027 is "819", but the 70-819 is "Iraqui sand" and doesn't even look close. Are the 71-*** colors and 70-*** colors the same?

The Vallejo 70.000 line is 'Model Color' (white cap), they are useful for hand brushing and the colors can be air brushed as well after thinning. Their 71.000 line is 'Model Air' (black cap), and is formulated with finely ground pigments especially for airbrush use.

Scale Hobbyist has a very good search engine which I use often to paint by numbers.

I did a side-by-side on screen match of the three colors to see the variations. Looks like 'Green Brown FS33245 (70.879)' and 'German Green Brown (Gelbraun) RAL8000 71.272' are the closer match to each other. And as you've already noted, the 'Iraqi Sand FS30475 (70.819) looks to be the lighter of the three.

HTH ... and that it makes any sense. 🤔

—mike

Ah! That explains the 70-*** vs 71-*** mystery. I have to go the brush route. The 70-819 is very light. The reference I saw (Sturmgescutz vor) that said "819" (they just give the last three numbers) was RAL 7027 Sandgrau , I guess they meant 71-819. Would appear the two series don't totally cross match. I'll have to scout out the Scale Hobbiest link.