I am Planning on building The M88A2 but not sure which conversion set to use Real Models or Legend can anyone tell me which is better ?
any bad points about both and any good points about both?
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M88A2 Legend or Real Models
tanknick22
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 04:40 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 04:48 PM UTC
I like the Legend Productions offering, but the instructions are hard work.
tanknick22
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 05:06 PM UTC
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I like the Legend Productions offering, but the instructions are hard work.
I seen that Revell Germany has a 1 35 M88 is that a rebox of the afv club kit?
GTDeath13
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 05:14 PM UTC
Go for the Legend set, far superior quality resin and easier to work with.
The Revell M88A1 kit is for the German version (M88A1G) so it might be missing some parts like the smoke launchers, since the Germans use their own Wengman type.
The Revell M88A1 kit is for the German version (M88A1G) so it might be missing some parts like the smoke launchers, since the Germans use their own Wengman type.
tanknick22
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 05:36 PM UTC
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Go for the Legend set, far superior quality resin and easier to work with.
The Revell M88A1 kit is for the German version (M88A1G) so it might be missing some parts like the smoke launchers, since the Germans use their own Wengman type.
I seen a sprue of the revell one it does have the us smoke grenade launchers
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 05:39 PM UTC
I also recommend the Legend M88A2 conversion set.
As for the Revell M88A1G, it is the same plastic as the AFV Club kit with an extra sprue and new PE for the German-specific parts. It has all you need to build the US version in the box.
As for the Revell M88A1G, it is the same plastic as the AFV Club kit with an extra sprue and new PE for the German-specific parts. It has all you need to build the US version in the box.
tanknick22
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 05:44 PM UTC
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I also recommend the Legend M88A2 conversion set.
As for the Revell M88A1G, it is the same plastic as the AFV Club kit with an extra sprue and new PE for the German-specific parts. It has all you need to build the US version in the box.
Thanks Gino
im surprised the A2 never got the T142 tracks
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 05:58 PM UTC
The M88 series has heavier duty T107 tracks, they are actually a little bit wider and have a different pitch than standard T97E1 tracks. Straight T142 tracks won't fit on them.
The IDF has modified some (different sprockets) to fit T142 tracks though.
The IDF has modified some (different sprockets) to fit T142 tracks though.
GTDeath13
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 05:59 PM UTC
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im surprised the A2 never got the T142 tracks
The M88 uses T107 track which has a slightly longer pitch 7.04in compared to 6.94in of the T97 and T142 track
https://www.iso-group.com/sustainment/military-land-vehicles/M88A1/M88A1-T107-Track-Shoe
LonCray
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2018 - 07:44 PM UTC
I'm more surprised that nobody has put out an M88A2 in styrene. The vehicle is well known, good looking and still in use. C'mon, Meng, make my dreams come true with an M88A2!
C_JACQUEMONT
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2018 - 07:46 PM UTC
ARVs get very little love from manufacturers, look how long it took to get a modern tool Bergepanther!
C_JACQUEMONT
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Posted: Sunday, January 21, 2018 - 07:47 PM UTC
Also Trumpeter got zillions of BMP-3 variants, but do they put out the ARV variant? No!
OldWarloke
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2018 - 03:33 AM UTC
I wouldn't recomend the Legend conversion , I tried this a while ago
and found that the resin parts had all shrunk , nothing fit right.
Here are som Pics. from the build.
and found that the resin parts had all shrunk , nothing fit right.
Here are som Pics. from the build.
tanknick22
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2018 - 06:01 AM UTC
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I wouldn't recomend the Legend conversion , I tried this a while ago
and found that the resin parts had all shrunk , nothing fit right.
Here are som Pics. from the build.
im not sure which one to go with now real models or legend
OldWarloke
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2018 - 08:28 PM UTC
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Quoted TextI wouldn't recomend the Legend conversion , I tried this a while ago
and found that the resin parts had all shrunk , nothing fit right.
Here are som Pics. from the build.
im not sure which one to go with now real models or legend
If you have to have one, go with the Real Models one, the Legend one is Crap. I have found that the Real Models parts are really nice.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, January 22, 2018 - 08:42 PM UTC
I haven't built it yet, but had both sets (Legend and Real Model). Side by side, the Legend set was much more accurate looking and better quality. I sold off the Real Model set and kept the Legend one. I have held mine up to the M88 donor kit and it seems to fit fine.
165thspc
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Posted: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 - 08:04 AM UTC
I have posted this before on Armorama but just in case anyone wants some stateside reference on the A2 I have a few more shots in the bank.
(Photo was taken at Ft. Knox, my copyright - Mike Koenig.)
(Photo was taken at Ft. Knox, my copyright - Mike Koenig.)
AVALONWARBOOKS
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2018 - 11:13 PM UTC
Any other IDF M88 LIC pix?
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 - 02:47 AM UTC
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Any other IDF M88 LIC pix?
H.P.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 - 03:26 AM UTC
Thanks for those images.
Now I know what to reply in the next News item:
Why didn't they do one of the IDF M88s with the bar armour instead
Now I know what to reply in the next News item:
Why didn't they do one of the IDF M88s with the bar armour instead
AVALONWARBOOKS
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Posted: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 - 04:56 AM UTC
Thanks to Henri-Pierre for those IDF M88 LIC pix
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