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Using Meng Panther ausf A Zimmerit?
Vierville
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 01:28 PM UTC
Hi guys!

I bought the Meng Panther ausf A for the stash without giving too much thought to how I'll Zimmerit it when I build it, but I see that Meng offers a decal version of the Zimmerit for this model...my question is has anybody used this yet? How does the decal perform over the (very well moulded) grainy surface texture of the tank? Any tips for applying it?

Thanks!

PS I see that meng suggests you use cyanoacrylate glue 'once the decal has dried out'...does anyone know what exactly they mean by this?
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 03:30 PM UTC
http://www.meng-model.com/new.php?id=680
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 06:40 PM UTC
I think Meng means to seal edges with ca glue after decal has dried.
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Posted: Monday, February 05, 2018 - 07:22 PM UTC
Here is a build of your kit using the Meng zimmerit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ecu_nAdaU
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 01:45 AM UTC
I used some wood glue thinned down with some water and brushed it onto the back of the decal. Holding up well so far. Tamiya extra thin also works well for snugging down those stubborn edges.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 - 02:02 AM UTC
Thanks so much Mark and Jon! Really appreciate your help!

I'm looking forward to using the Zimmerit...it looks like s very nice kit.my first Panther!
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Posted: Friday, February 09, 2018 - 10:04 AM UTC

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Thanks so much Mark and Jon! Really appreciate your help!

I'm looking forward to using the Zimmerit...it looks like s very nice kit.my first Panther!


Mike, if you haven’t bought the Meng zimmerit already, I’d look into ATAK zimmerit sets. I’ve tried of bunch of different zimmerit variations so far and ATAK seems to give the best results, apart from making your own zimmerit. It’s also very easy to chip and gives sharp edges when chipped.
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Posted: Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 01:58 PM UTC

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PS I see that meng suggests you use cyanoacrylate glue 'once the decal has dried out'...does anyone know what exactly they mean by this?

Probably the liquids used to soften the decals contain acetic acid that softens the cyanoacrylate glue too.
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Posted: Saturday, February 10, 2018 - 10:09 PM UTC

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PS I see that meng suggests you use cyanoacrylate glue 'once the decal has dried out'...does anyone know what exactly they mean by this?

Probably the liquids used to soften the decals contain acetic acid that softens the cyanoacrylate glue too.


It's to lock down the edges of the decals so they don't peel up.
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Posted: Monday, February 12, 2018 - 01:42 AM UTC

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PS I see that meng suggests you use cyanoacrylate glue 'once the decal has dried out'...does anyone know what exactly they mean by this?

Probably the liquids used to soften the decals contain acetic acid that softens the cyanoacrylate glue too.


It's to lock down the edges of the decals so they don't peel up.


Strange, to use cyanoacrylate over the decals... sort of mess.
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Posted: Monday, February 12, 2018 - 04:10 AM UTC

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PS I see that meng suggests you use cyanoacrylate glue 'once the decal has dried out'...does anyone know what exactly they mean by this?

Probably the liquids used to soften the decals contain acetic acid that softens the cyanoacrylate glue too.


It's to lock down the edges of the decals so they don't peel up.


Strange, to use cyanoacrylate over the decals... sort of mess.


They’re not actual “decals” as unit numbers would be. They’re either resin sheets (as in ATAK zimmerit) or a similar plastic like Meng or Tamiya zimmerit stickers, or “decals”.

The CA glue goes under the sheets to hold them down to the surface. You’re essentially flying pre-cut sheets of zimmerit down onto the model surfaces.
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Posted: Monday, February 12, 2018 - 07:41 AM UTC
Refer to the link below, great review on Meng Zimm decal by the modelling news.

http://www.themodellingnews.com/2017/12/in-boxed-meng-models-135th-scale.html
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 06:40 PM UTC
Im using them on mine, apply them just like decals, and so far theyre a perfect fit.. once dry I smother them with Tamiya thin and theyre good to go. havent had any issues yet with them peeling up
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 12:33 AM UTC

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Im using them on mine, apply them just like decals, and so far theyre a perfect fit.. once dry I smother them with Tamiya thin and theyre good to go. havent had any issues yet with them peeling up


Did you apply them directly onto the styrene or to primed surface?
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 02:32 AM UTC
direct to the plastic
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 02:40 AM UTC
Thanks, will try that method myself.
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