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Mixing Tamiya flat clear with Tamiya Paint
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Posted: Monday, February 19, 2018 - 11:48 PM UTC
Hi all,
Anybody ever try mixing Tamiya Flat clear , with their paint?
Sort of like killing two birds with one stone.
Any adverse effects?

Thanks


Cheers

Jeff
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 12:09 AM UTC
I believe thats the way its supposed to be used rather then on its own
Grauwolf
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 01:21 AM UTC
Jeff,
Tamiya XF-86 Flat Clear is intended to be used as a final flat coat after you have
painted and decaled your model.

Tamiya X-21 Flat Base is intended to be used as a flattening agent, it is mixed into
the X series of paints(gloss), to render them flat.

NEVER use X21 as a final coat as it will make your model totally "white",once dry.

I don't see the reason of mixing Flat Clear into the XF series as this paint is already flat.

Cheers,
Joe
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 06:29 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Jeff,
Tamiya XF-86 Flat Clear is intended to be used as a final flat coat after you have
painted and decaled your model.

Tamiya X-21 Flat Base is intended to be used as a flattening agent, it is mixed into
the X series of paints(gloss), to render them flat.

NEVER use X21 as a final coat as it will make your model totally "white",once dry.

I don't see the reason of mixing Flat Clear into the XF series as this paint is already flat.

Cheers,
Joe


Thanks to both, what I am referring to is their Clear flat, and just trying to save a step.
I know about the problems with using their flat base by itself
Just getting a tad lazy maybe.
Think I will try on some scrap plastic first just in case a mess up.

Cheers
AgentG
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 06:28 AM UTC
Actually, if applying decals, you'd be better off adding some Clear Gloss to the flat paint. That would render a semi gloss finish better able to accommodate decals without silvering. Then flat coat the entire piece.

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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 04:25 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Actually, if applying decals, you'd be better off adding some Clear Gloss to the flat paint. That would render a semi gloss finish better able to accommodate decals without silvering. Then flat coat the entire piece.

G


I like that and would be good for applying a wash also.

Thanks.
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Posted: Thursday, February 22, 2018 - 11:29 AM UTC
Considering how matt and almost chalky tamiya XF paint can be, I'm not sure why you'd bother mixing XF-86 with it.

I mix X-22 gloss with it. It goes on smoother and removes the dead flat chalky finish. It makes glossing for decals much easier.

Then at the end of the build, I put a flat coat on.
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