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Stug IV Carentan/Bloody Gulch
Vierville
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 04:54 AM UTC
Hi guys.

I'm looking for any info or photos of 17th SS Stug IVs that were used at the Battle of Bloody Gulch/defense of Carentan around June 13th 1944?

There was a good thread on this topic from 2009 over on another forum but all the photos are now inaccessible!

Any info or pics would be VERY gratefully appreciated!
retiredyank
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 07:39 AM UTC
About three fifths of the way down the page is a photo of a stug IV knocked out close to the 13th:

http://www.robertsarmory.com/German-equipment-normandy-june-1944.htm

Here is a photo of another stug IV belonging to the 17th SS. It shows the artillery piece being inspected, in July:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/530017449865797788/?autologin=true

A lot of information, here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/triggertimeforum/bloody-gulch-info-t3275-s40.html

I just did a Google image search for "17th SS stug iv". Tons of hits. Anyway, hope all this helps.
Vierville
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 07:19 PM UTC
Thanks Matthew!

I've seen those photos during my searching and the Trigger Time thread was in fact the one I was talking about where a lot of the photos are no longer accessible.

There's one photo in particular which is captioned as beibg 'taken near Donville' that I'm particularly interested in but cannot open!
retiredyank
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 07:26 PM UTC
Triggertime displays fine, for me. You may need to clean your internet cache, if you can't see them.
Vierville
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 08:02 PM UTC
Thanks...I'll try that
Sean50
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Posted: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 - 08:40 PM UTC
Mike,

The "StuG near Donville" is shown in a couple of fairly well known colour photos taken by George Lage. It belongs to Mark Bando but has been featured in a few books and articles by others. It's the one with the dead crewman hanging out of the cupola if that rings a bell. The owner of Donville manor has suggested the location as just around the corner on the smaller road, about 400 NE of the manor itself.
This link should take you to the photo:
https://live.warthunder.com/post/142810/en/

The best known photo is of the three lost at la Fourchette (junction of current D903/D971):
http://www.dday-overlord.com/img/archives/manche/baupte/01_baupte_1944.jpg

I am about 25% of the way through writing a book about this particular engagement but can't get to my photos at the moment.

Cheers

Sean
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Posted: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 - 01:00 AM UTC
Thanks so much Sean...that's JUST what I was searching for! I look forward to reading your book.

I've met M.Feuardent and seen the Manoir de Donville...without a map readily at hand, is the location 400m NE of the manor perhaps close to the Donville Church near the entrance to the Manoir de Donville driveway?

As a side matter, we continued down the sunken lane that runs past Donville and the church for perhaps 2km and came across at least two houses with significant battle damage (bullet holes of various calibres) still visible.

It's an absolutely fascinating area.

My wife was totally freaked out by the manor and the surrounding areas...she couldn't leave quickly enough!
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