Hi guys.
I've ordered Dragon's 6831 "Wittman's Ace Tiger Crew" figure set.
I see that the box art is apparently not the same in terms of how the figures are posed as the actual box contents? (On the box the figures are standing around separately but from build reviews I see they are standing with their arms around each other).
Has anyone built this set and can you please tell me how it came out?
It's a bit disappointing when a manufacturer shows one picture on the box and the figures are moulded in entirely different poses inside!
Thanks!
Figures
Military figures of all shapes and sizes.
Military figures of all shapes and sizes.
Hosted by Darren Baker, Mario Matijasic
Dragon Wittman's Tank Crew set

Vierville

Joined: April 05, 2014
KitMaker: 384 posts
Armorama: 372 posts

Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 03:38 PM UTC

grunt26

Joined: July 23, 2005
KitMaker: 155 posts
Armorama: 121 posts

Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 05:19 PM UTC
There are extra arms included in the set, to allow various poses.
However, being DML, be prepared for a LOT of clean-up, replacing heads with Hornet products, and one big problem is the collar tabs are grossly oversized, standing proud of the collar surface in exaggerated proportions, and the pin on awards are undersized...all that being said, poses are good.
However, being DML, be prepared for a LOT of clean-up, replacing heads with Hornet products, and one big problem is the collar tabs are grossly oversized, standing proud of the collar surface in exaggerated proportions, and the pin on awards are undersized...all that being said, poses are good.

Vierville

Joined: April 05, 2014
KitMaker: 384 posts
Armorama: 372 posts

Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 07:24 PM UTC
Thanks for the info Rod. I'm glad that they have included extra arms. That solves the question of why the box art and finished product photos looked different.
I'm kind of used to the amount of cleanup on Dragon figures...they're much more work than some other manufacturers especially with the harder plastic that Dragon uses. It's not nice to sand/sculpt!
I normally remove the collar tabs, shoulder boards, belt buckles and medals/badges and replace with PE parts so I know exactly what you mean about these...
Thank you for the info!
I'm kind of used to the amount of cleanup on Dragon figures...they're much more work than some other manufacturers especially with the harder plastic that Dragon uses. It's not nice to sand/sculpt!
I normally remove the collar tabs, shoulder boards, belt buckles and medals/badges and replace with PE parts so I know exactly what you mean about these...
Thank you for the info!

grunt26

Joined: July 23, 2005
KitMaker: 155 posts
Armorama: 121 posts

Posted: Thursday, March 01, 2018 - 08:25 PM UTC
You're welcome Mike!
Its a good set, despite the shortcomings I pointed out. I do the same things you do, new collar tabs and shoulder boards greatly improve these sets...waiting for some Hornet head sets to arrive so I can work on mine...
Its a good set, despite the shortcomings I pointed out. I do the same things you do, new collar tabs and shoulder boards greatly improve these sets...waiting for some Hornet head sets to arrive so I can work on mine...

Vierville

Joined: April 05, 2014
KitMaker: 384 posts
Armorama: 372 posts

Posted: Friday, March 02, 2018 - 01:28 AM UTC
I have never used hornet heads...but I'm beginning to think I should give them a try. They look much better than the kit ones!

grunt26

Joined: July 23, 2005
KitMaker: 155 posts
Armorama: 121 posts

Posted: Friday, March 02, 2018 - 02:43 AM UTC
Hornet heads are spectacular! Several styles of SS headgear as well....Officer peaked caps, crusher caps, and sidecaps, and a few more....a must have for making ALL 1/35 figures look good!

Vierville

Joined: April 05, 2014
KitMaker: 384 posts
Armorama: 372 posts

Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 01:14 AM UTC
You've convinced me...I've decided to order a set!

brekinapez

Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
Armorama: 1,860 posts

Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 02:06 AM UTC
Get a room, you two.


Vierville

Joined: April 05, 2014
KitMaker: 384 posts
Armorama: 372 posts

Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 03:12 AM UTC
A room full of Dragon figures with Hornet heads?


brekinapez

Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
Armorama: 1,860 posts

Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 03:55 AM UTC
Quoted Text
A room full of Dragon figures with Hornet heads?![]()
I'm not one to judge, but if that is your thing...
...it will likely become a Netflix series.

NoTime

Joined: August 30, 2008
KitMaker: 23 posts
Armorama: 17 posts

Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 04:28 AM UTC
You might also want to take a look at some of the Alpine Miniatures Panzer and SS headsets. The Hornet heads are beautifully sculpted and very animated, but they all tend to be the same shape - a long, slender face. The Alpine heads IMHO, are a bit more individual. And there are a lot of SS Panzer crew heads.

Epi

Joined: December 22, 2001
KitMaker: 3,586 posts
Armorama: 2,556 posts

Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 05:37 AM UTC
Only one set of arms in the kit.



Vierville

Joined: April 05, 2014
KitMaker: 384 posts
Armorama: 372 posts

Posted: Saturday, March 03, 2018 - 07:56 PM UTC
Hi Pete.
I couldn't open the picture you posted but is there only one set of arms in the kit?
I couldn't open the picture you posted but is there only one set of arms in the kit?

Epi

Joined: December 22, 2001
KitMaker: 3,586 posts
Armorama: 2,556 posts

Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 08:29 AM UTC
The picture is showing Mike, but yes, there is only one set of arms for the figures and they are the ones where they are standing hand to hand holding one another.

avenue

Joined: May 25, 2013
KitMaker: 544 posts
Armorama: 542 posts
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 09:53 AM UTC
the only missing figure was combat photographer(or camera man) wonder why dragon fail to include it.

Vierville

Joined: April 05, 2014
KitMaker: 384 posts
Armorama: 372 posts

Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 12:27 PM UTC
Thanks Pete.
I can see the picture now and it looks like the parts only make up the figures with their arms around each other, as you said. That's disappointing.
So this brings me back to my original question of why does Dragon show box art of figures in one pose when the box is opened you get figures in totally different poses?
While this set looks like it is well made, having the figures standing in the poses they are in makes the set extremely unversatile. You can basically only use them to depict the famous Wittman photo.
I can see the picture now and it looks like the parts only make up the figures with their arms around each other, as you said. That's disappointing.
So this brings me back to my original question of why does Dragon show box art of figures in one pose when the box is opened you get figures in totally different poses?
While this set looks like it is well made, having the figures standing in the poses they are in makes the set extremely unversatile. You can basically only use them to depict the famous Wittman photo.
Posted: Sunday, March 04, 2018 - 04:59 PM UTC
Quoted Text
So this brings me back to my original question of why does Dragon show box art of figures in one pose when the box is opened you get figures in totally different poses?
That is a question that only Dragon can answer.

grunt26

Joined: July 23, 2005
KitMaker: 155 posts
Armorama: 121 posts

Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 09:23 PM UTC
Thank God for the internet...where someone can help another person out with some info, and be told to "get a room".....WTF??
Obviously, a comment from someone who spends A LOT of time in hotel rooms with strange men....
Obviously, a comment from someone who spends A LOT of time in hotel rooms with strange men....

brekinapez

Joined: July 26, 2013
KitMaker: 2,272 posts
Armorama: 1,860 posts

Posted: Monday, March 05, 2018 - 09:54 PM UTC
...and then along comes the poster who doesn't get humor or what emojis signify.
![]() |