In the Osprey Vanguard on Pzkpfw IV armed with the long 75, Jentz noted that an order went out in mid 1942 to redesignate all Pzkpfw IV produced to that point armed with the long 75 as ausf G. The difference was amended to being the main gun.

Unless this has been superseded by further research that was my understanding. As well as the production line introduction of new features was fluid as it would be between the G and H. Revised features appeared at different times depending on dates of manufacture and availability of parts. Like the above post with holding older chassis for fitting with the new gun. Theoretically that could allow for a chassis with earlier F features being held for the new gun right beside a newer chassis with later G features.

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In the Osprey Vanguard on Pzkpfw IV armed with the long 75, Jentz noted that an order went out in mid 1942 to redesignate all Pzkpfw IV produced to that point armed with the long 75 as ausf G. The difference was amended to being the main gun.

Unless this has been superseded by further research that was my understanding. As well as the production line introduction of new features was fluid as it would be between the G and H. Revised features appeared at different times depending on dates of manufacture and availability of parts. Like the above post with holding older chassis for fitting with the new gun. Theoretically that could allow for a chassis with earlier F features being held for the new gun right beside a newer chassis with later G features.

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Don't tell Dragon about this. They would flood the market and drain our wallets with all possible mix and match versions of F2 & G up to borderline H. And then there is the possibility of field repairs ...
/ Robin

The F2 was redesignated as a G, so they are the same. I can’t answer why people think that the muzzle brake distinguishes one from the other but they are repeating an old myth that was debunked some years ago by Jentz and Doyle based on primary sources but there are lots of old books in people’s libraries and they aren’t amended when new information is discovered.

You might as well ask why some people keep referring to ‘Porsche’ and ‘Henschel’ turrets when neither manufacturer designed or built turrets. It’s just old and incorrect information being redistributed.

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The F2 was redesignated as a G, so they are the same. I can’t answer why people think that the muzzle brake distinguishes one from the other but they are repeating an old myth that was debunked some years ago by Jentz and Doyle based on primary sources but there are lots of old books in people’s libraries and they aren’t amended when new information is discovered.

You might as well ask why some people keep referring to ‘Porsche’ and ‘Henschel’ turrets when neither manufacturer designed or built turrets. It’s just old and incorrect information being redistributed.

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F2 is a convenient designation for modern historians who want to distuinguish the early G with single baffle muzzle brake and turret side vision ports from the more common, later version.

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The F2 was redesignated as a G, so they are the same. I can’t answer why people think that the muzzle brake distinguishes one from the other but they are repeating an old myth that was debunked some years ago by Jentz and Doyle based on primary sources but there are lots of old books in people’s libraries and they aren’t amended when new information is discovered.

You might as well ask why some people keep referring to ‘Porsche’ and ‘Henschel’ turrets when neither manufacturer designed or built turrets. It’s just old and incorrect information being redistributed.

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F2 is a convenient designation for modern historians who want to distuinguish the early G with single baffle muzzle brake and turret side vision ports from the more common, later version.

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That's the problem, some Pz IV around that time have single baffle muzzle and a turret without side vision ports, while other "mid" G have double baffle muzzle with side view ports. There are also some with the entire tank is a 1941 F upgraded with only the kwk40 L43 and double baffle, still considered a G and not F2.

I don't find it convenient with such vague detail.

That's the problem, some Pz IV around that time have single baffle muzzle and a turret without side vision ports, while other "mid" G have double baffle muzzle with side view ports. There are also some with the entire tank is a 1941 F upgraded with only the kwk40 L43 and double baffle, still considered a G and not F2.

I don't find it convenient with such vague detail.

I apology for begin bitter about the detail. As I said, it is for my curiosity.

I'm not a very good modeller, I'm neither a serious one, I don't mind about the small details. I have very limited tools and resource. Despite that, I enjoy to kits with interior (irony, I know). And as you all know, when including the interior, a model can have even more possible variations than a regular model, exterior only model. It is also the reason for me to ask the initial question, because the baffle was a small exterior detail and the fact it decides the model regardless interior is a little too far out. But yeah, I think that I'm done about this subject.

Btw, here is my on going Tiger E: https://imgur.com/cVaxEt5

I did check the site of Mr.Byrden or corrections, but still intentionally leave some because there are many mixed variants of the Tiger E. So yes, I do aware of the poor standardization even before making this the post.