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Takom/Rye Field Models Panther comparisons
spongya
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2018 - 09:02 PM UTC
What would you be interested in a comparison review? Building is going to take a long, long time, so a parallel building project out of the question for now, but what would you be interested in an in-box comparison? (If you are interested in a comparison at all.)
russamotto
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Posted: Friday, April 20, 2018 - 11:14 PM UTC
I would be interested in several things. How clear are the instructions, how well do sub assemblies fit together and are the tracks easy to work with or individual multi-part assemblies like the Meng kit? Basic fitting of major parts, comparison of detail and are there any extras, like jerry cans or other stowage.
Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 12:11 AM UTC
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What would you be interested in a comparison review? Building is going to take a long, long time, so a parallel building project out of the question for now, but what would you be interested in an in-box comparison? (If you are interested in a comparison at all.)
The in-box comparison would be really good, I think. It would allow people to see the difference and make choose the kit that best suits their needs.
johhar
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 12:25 AM UTC
Any modelers interested in Panthers would be interested, including myself. As you said, it would be a lot of work and time. So I think the main thing is that this much work and time has to be worthwhile to you as well.
spongya
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 12:48 AM UTC
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Any modelers interested in Panthers would be interested, including myself. As you said, it would be a lot of work and time. So I think the main thing is that this much work and time has to be worthwhile to you as well.
This is what I'm trying to figure out... 1000+ parts/each, so individual parts photographed is not an option (and makes no sense, either). Fit and whatnot are difficult with in-box.
But the instructions, the details, impressions is doable. I'm just trying to figure out what to focus on.
ChrisK89
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 11:33 AM UTC
Thats a nice offer you are giving us. I'm not really interested in all the interior but I'd like to know which one is better detailed on the outside especially the torch marks, welds etc.
Is it possible to add the Meng Panther for your comparison, too?
I know it will be a lot of work, but so far I've never found a comparison between the 3 kits.
Thanks and greetings
Christian
Is it possible to add the Meng Panther for your comparison, too?
I know it will be a lot of work, but so far I've never found a comparison between the 3 kits.
Thanks and greetings
Christian
spongya
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Posted: Saturday, April 21, 2018 - 02:56 PM UTC
I really would love to but I broke the bank with these two panthers as it is. Unless Mr Gates, Trump or a Saudi Prince sends me a Meng Panther I can't.
The details is a good idea. I can take macro shots of the interesting parts easy.
The details is a good idea. I can take macro shots of the interesting parts easy.
spongya
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Posted: Saturday, April 28, 2018 - 01:59 PM UTC
Well, I put it on my blog; if you're interested, just visit there. (Sorry, I had to.)
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 11:24 AM UTC
I have been studying all the new Panther tank kits online for a while.
I have already dismissed the Meng offering as it is clearly not one of Meng's better efforts, and I'm a big Meng fan in general. It seems like a kit rushed to market in order to beat out the competition.
The kit that seems most promising is the Takom stuff, but I'm waiting for the May release of the mid/late Ausf. A with molded in zimmerit.
I'd be interested to see the comparison review though for sure.
I have already dismissed the Meng offering as it is clearly not one of Meng's better efforts, and I'm a big Meng fan in general. It seems like a kit rushed to market in order to beat out the competition.
The kit that seems most promising is the Takom stuff, but I'm waiting for the May release of the mid/late Ausf. A with molded in zimmerit.
I'd be interested to see the comparison review though for sure.
spongya
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 01:51 PM UTC
It's on the blog already
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 03:57 PM UTC
Nice comparison blog! I haven't seen the Takom kit, but I'm currently building the RFM kit, and gotta say that while it looks complex it isn't very difficult to build. The ejection pin marks on the tracks are raised and hence easy to remove, and track detail is fantastic.
I find the instructions to be quite good, but will agree that the sections on the various wheels may leave some confused. The wheels with separate tyres are obviously supplied for diorama/detailing purposes.
Overall I've found fit to be excellent in most parts, but one will need to either open holes or shorten guide pins, as holes tend to be too shallow, or pins to long/thick. Once sorted out, fit is generally great.
The amount of PE will probably put some people off, but I enjoy working with PE, so...
One word of warning; follow the instructions carefully when it comes to the order in which to mount interior detail, unless you want to find yourself unable to attach parts.
I did however skip well into the instructions to begin with the hull tub, as I didn't fancy building the turret and hull top first, like RFM wants you to do.
Arild
I find the instructions to be quite good, but will agree that the sections on the various wheels may leave some confused. The wheels with separate tyres are obviously supplied for diorama/detailing purposes.
Overall I've found fit to be excellent in most parts, but one will need to either open holes or shorten guide pins, as holes tend to be too shallow, or pins to long/thick. Once sorted out, fit is generally great.
The amount of PE will probably put some people off, but I enjoy working with PE, so...
One word of warning; follow the instructions carefully when it comes to the order in which to mount interior detail, unless you want to find yourself unable to attach parts.
I did however skip well into the instructions to begin with the hull tub, as I didn't fancy building the turret and hull top first, like RFM wants you to do.
Arild
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 09:05 PM UTC
Thank you for the insight!
I shall be proceeding with the build probably after August - I have a bigger project to finish. (A move from the UK to Hungary... Yay.)
I shall be proceeding with the build probably after August - I have a bigger project to finish. (A move from the UK to Hungary... Yay.)
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Posted: Friday, May 04, 2018 - 12:11 AM UTC
I bought the Panther A late kit, as I thought they miss priced it at $50!! Got it home, and just had to look at the contents. I was a very happy guy with what I saw, and trust me I'm a RFM fan!
Now the kit's not perfect, but danged close enough to be called perfect in my eyes. It's clearly better than their King Tigers. But still not by a huge amount. (I like their King Tigers) My complaints are pretty simple, and a very easy fix. The paint call outs make me have to convert them to something readily accessible. Please call out three or four common brands. Lastly; one of the schemes I really came to like was the N1 Command Panther A, but the paintings are small and hard to work with. How much of a problem would it have been to make them two or three times larger?
I liked this kit so well, that I ran out and bought the Panther A early kit. It didn't come with the photo etch and cables. My dealer gave me a phone number to get the parts, and said to let him know if I have the slightest problem (that's why I shop LHS 95% of the time)
I can easily see TAKOM coming out with a Panther D or even a G Panther, and I'll be all over them! Are we not in a golden era with RFM, Meng, and Takom fighting with each other to give us their best kits? And that $50 price tag was correct!
gary
Now the kit's not perfect, but danged close enough to be called perfect in my eyes. It's clearly better than their King Tigers. But still not by a huge amount. (I like their King Tigers) My complaints are pretty simple, and a very easy fix. The paint call outs make me have to convert them to something readily accessible. Please call out three or four common brands. Lastly; one of the schemes I really came to like was the N1 Command Panther A, but the paintings are small and hard to work with. How much of a problem would it have been to make them two or three times larger?
I liked this kit so well, that I ran out and bought the Panther A early kit. It didn't come with the photo etch and cables. My dealer gave me a phone number to get the parts, and said to let him know if I have the slightest problem (that's why I shop LHS 95% of the time)
I can easily see TAKOM coming out with a Panther D or even a G Panther, and I'll be all over them! Are we not in a golden era with RFM, Meng, and Takom fighting with each other to give us their best kits? And that $50 price tag was correct!
gary