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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 05:53 AM UTC
There is the famous video of the idiots who thought a Yugo is an anti tank weapon and tried taking on a Leo 2A5 (with predictable results! Darwinism at work. 2 less brain dead idiots to breed more stupid people and farther contaminate the gene pool.) Anybody happen to know what unit that track belonged to?
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 11:07 AM UTC
Looks like the tank was from the PzBat. 214.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXDtQEwwQLQ


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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 12:17 PM UTC
Hi,
if you refer to an incident with a LADA car, with the people inside firing at a Leopard 2A5 on 13. Juni 1999, the vehicles were from PzBtl. 214 and PzBtl. 33. It was reported that it was not the Leopard 2A5 firing back, but a soldier with an MG3 dismounted from another vehicle because not everyone from the tank crew was on board when that happened. Christopher is absolutely right with the video he provided. There you can see the markings of the vehicles. The yellow "Palmtree" on black and white however is from PzBtl. 33.As far as I have seen, non of the vehicles showed the unit´s tactical sign.

Andreas
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 12:46 PM UTC
Yes, that was it. I figured with the location Yugo was a good guess. I thought the Leo's co-ax got involved. Would have loved to seen the 120mm do it's thing. I heard they have canister round for it. Did they have them in service then? I have a Leo 2A5 I'm planning a KFOR vehicle. That would making an interesting subject.
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 07:28 PM UTC
Hi!

Aware of this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFURbwy8rQ4

Ignore the stupid written comments!

Andreas
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Posted: Thursday, April 26, 2018 - 09:57 PM UTC

Quoted Text

Yes, that was it. I figured with the location Yugo was a good guess. I thought the Leo's co-ax got involved. Would have loved to seen the 120mm do it's thing. I heard they have canister round for it. Did they have them in service then? I have a Leo 2A5 I'm planning a KFOR vehicle. That would making an interesting subject.



7.62mm MG3 is more than enough for a passenger car. Why waste an expensive canister round?
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Posted: Friday, April 27, 2018 - 02:47 AM UTC
Oh the edge
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Posted: Friday, April 27, 2018 - 03:30 AM UTC
"7.62mm MG3 is more than enough for a passenger car. Why waste an expensive canister round?" Because you CAN! Kinda like shooting a paint can with a Barnett .50. It's fun. And there is the intimidation factor. That gets out on the internet and even dumbest of the dumb will think twice about trying that again. I knew a guy who was a 13 year old FlaK-Helfer in 45. He said the day he knew the war was over was when he was coming back from a canteen run, came around a hedge and went nose to nose with an M-4 Sherman. He dropped the canteens and ran like hell. The tank opened up on him! Not with the .30 cal.! Not with the Ma Deuce on the roof! They used the 75mm! He said he figured if they had enough ammo to waste 75mm rounds on a 13 year old kid ....... If you "waste" a 120 mm on a Lada that would mess with the minds of the opposition.
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Posted: Friday, April 27, 2018 - 03:42 AM UTC
Anybody have the decal sheet from the Revell 1/35 KFOR Leopard 2A5, #03045 in their spares box? Especially the markings for Panzerbat. 33.
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Posted: Friday, April 27, 2018 - 02:12 PM UTC
Hi,
I have one in spare but it does not contain the coat of arms symbol of PzBtl.33. It has PzBtl.214 instead. Could provide it to you.

You may use these für PzBtl.33

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Peddinghaus-1-35-Bundeswehr-Panzerbataillon-33-Leopard-2A6-Tank-Markings-887-/181048985995

Andreas
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Posted: Saturday, April 28, 2018 - 03:45 PM UTC

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Anybody have the decal sheet from the Revell 1/35 KFOR Leopard 2A5, #03045 in their spares box? Especially the markings for Panzerbat. 33.



Send me your address and I'll send ya some .... PzBat. 33 right ?

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Posted: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 - 03:29 AM UTC
Tangential question. Well, more of an observation..... The photos I've seen of KFOR Leos, they appear fairly devoid of external stowage ( unlike US vehicles that tend to look like gypsy wagons with all the gear hanging off..) Was this actually the case or were they spruced up for the photographer?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 - 06:43 AM UTC
Any particular KFOR Leopards...German, Danish, Belgian, Canadian, Italian?

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Posted: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 - 06:54 AM UTC
Been working on a Bundeswehr one Haven't looked much at the others.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 - 07:06 AM UTC
Leopards have built in closed top stowage bins....keeps kit dry and out of sight. If the tank are in a central base camp location, used for daily patrols, and have a good echelon to carry non-essential kit there is no need to hang rucksacks, kit bags, etc..

Tanks like the Abrams have limited internal or closed storage capacity...thus the gipsy wagon look. It may also be a Company SOP to carry all kit on the tanks thus reducing the need for a bigger echelon.

The Leopards photos aren’t staged....Leopard crews just know how to pack kit well on their tanks!
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