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Tiran-4 & Tiran-5 differences?
iam2brb
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Posted: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 - 03:17 PM UTC
Hey guys! Can I install an aftermarket 105mm on the Takom Tiran-4 and still have an accurate build?

Just curious, what are the upgrades between the '-3' and the '-4'?

Did the Israelis ever install the 105mm on the Tiran-4?

Thanks!
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Dinocamo
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Posted: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 - 03:56 PM UTC
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-54/T-55_operators_and_variants#Israel

It is kind of well sourced so give it a go.

The Tiran 4 is are T-54 modified, the Tiran 5 is T-55 modified.

The Tiran 4Sh and Tiran 5Sh are futher upgrade, notably the 105mm instead of 100mm, and there are also various exterior detail differences.

Edit: After some simple verification with Google. Yes, you can do it. Takom kit is the upgraded variant.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 12:31 PM UTC

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Just curious, what are the upgrades between the '-3' and the '-4'?


The Tiran 3 never existed. Wikipedia - wrongly - states that unmodified T-54s and T-55s in IDF service were called Tiran 1 and 2 respectively, but in fact the major Tiran variants were the Tiran 4/5 (T-54/55) together with their sub-variants and the Tiran 6 (T-62).
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 02:26 PM UTC

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Just curious, what are the upgrades between the '-3' and the '-4'?


The Tiran 3 never existed. Wikipedia - wrongly - states that unmodified T-54s and T-55s in IDF service were called Tiran 1 and 2 respectively, but in fact the major Tiran variants were the Tiran 4/5 (T-54/55) together with their sub-variants and the Tiran 6 (T-62).


I was under the impression that the Tiran 4 retained the 100mm gun and the Tiran 5 had the 105mm gun
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Posted: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 - 02:52 PM UTC

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I was under the impression that the Tiran 4 retained the 100mm gun and the Tiran 5 had the 105mm gun


Both have been upgunned with IMI's 'Sharir' gun (licensed 105mm M68). These variants were called Tiran 4/5 Sh. Some of them were backdated to their original main-armament configuration (100mm D-10) in the late '70s and handed over to allies in Lebanon. At least one IDF training formation used these backdated tanks for training Lebanese tankers.
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