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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 04:46 PM UTC
Hi. Can anyone tell me what Chinese tank(s) are in the famous picture of the studentprotest in 1989 on the Tiananman square?
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 05:00 PM UTC
They were Type 59's.
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 06:54 PM UTC

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They were Type 59's.


Actually Type 59-B's.
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 07:07 PM UTC

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They were Type 59's.


Actually Type 59-B's.



Not finding any information, on the "B" or that there was a "B".
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 07:34 PM UTC
https://youtu.be/CxDd82Myqis amazing story

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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 07:51 PM UTC
Type 59 (59式)

Trumpeter, Takom and Italeri made Type 59s in plastic 1/35 kits. Takom seems like the best deal...

Just FYI.
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 08:05 PM UTC

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HansBouwmeester -
Hi. Can anyone tell me what Chinese tank(s) are in the famous picture of the studentprotest in 1989 on the Tiananman square?



Assuming you are referring to the image that amoz02t posted. Seems that Trumpeter named their kit -B based on the inclusion of the 105mm version. This is what I've found on a model subject like this:

http://armorama.com/forums/251657&page=1

http://armorama.com/forums/140322&page=1

http://ipmsmalta.forumotion.net/t1879-chinese-t-59b-construction-complete

http://ipmsmalta.forumotion.net/t2152-tank-man-tiananmen1989-china




HansBouwmeester
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 10:05 PM UTC
Thanks, great info.
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Posted: Saturday, May 12, 2018 - 11:02 PM UTC
If you can find it, this is the kit you might want to look for - https://www.scalemates.com/kits/1003224-takom-2069-chinese-medium-tank-type-59-69-2-in-1

I have one in my stash and plan to do one that was involved with the taking of the presidential palace during the fall of Saigon.

Cheers
HansBouwmeester
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 02:49 PM UTC
Thanks. If I decide to make the dio this will be the one to use.
A museum asked me to make it but building 5 simular tanks is not very "inspiring".
Need to find thisone too in 1/35 scale
http://www.jotus.com/main1.php?l_id=pl2&h_id=1&l3=1&p_id=7&id=1759
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 03:37 PM UTC

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Thanks. If I decide to make the dio this will be the one to use.
A museum asked me to make it but building 5 simular tanks is not very "inspiring".
Need to find thisone too in 1/35 scale
http://www.jotus.com/main1.php?l_id=pl2&h_id=1&l3=1&p_id=7&id=1759



That will be difficult, probably impossible ...
Scratchbuilding or maybe cheating with a 1/32 bus from Aoshima

/ Robin
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 04:11 PM UTC
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Scratchbuilding or maybe cheating with a 1/32 bus from Aoshima
/ Robin


That 1/32 sounds good. Since it's half burned and wrecked that won't be too difficult.
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 04:32 PM UTC
By the way, in the original picture these tanks have some big device on the turret.
It's packed in canvas. Is that included in the kit and what is it?
You surely have guessed I'm not tankman.....
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 05:17 PM UTC
That is the AA MG covered up on top of the tanks.
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 05:28 PM UTC
To mee it looks like the heavy machine gun by the commanders hatch. On the left side of the turret when viewed from the front like in that film.
Standard equipment, included in Takom kit nr 2069
Link to large image of Takom 2069:
https://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/3/5/4/17331_1_tak2069_1.jpg
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 05:58 PM UTC
Yep, that's it. The cover should not be the problem.
Well, googling for the right figure in front of it but I guess after naming the costs of this project they"ll back off.....
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 06:03 PM UTC
Maybe they could rethink their plans and go for something less than the whole Tiananmen square....
Maybe just the man and one single tank ...
/ Robin
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Posted: Sunday, May 13, 2018 - 08:28 PM UTC

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Maybe they could rethink their plans and go for something less than the whole Tiananmen square....
Maybe just the man and one single tank ...
/ Robin



Yep, suggested that to the museumguy. Seems he liked the suggestion. Well, I'm going to think about it too. Not much of a tankbuilder. If you look at my website there's only one tank there...
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Posted: Monday, May 14, 2018 - 11:46 PM UTC
You don't necessarily have to use the Type 59 tank:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/251657&page=1

Bronco makes variations of the Type 63, several of which would be usable for that era.
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2018 - 01:07 AM UTC
Oke, I'm making progress with the diorama. On the second and third tank it appears there is a canvas cover on the back of the tank. I have been searching but can't find better pictures. Does anybody know what these where, what they were covering and where they are situated on the back of the tank. In this picture it's the brown cover. The green is covering the machine gun
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2018 - 02:09 AM UTC
FYI, Royal Model has just released a 1/35th figure of “Tank Man”.
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2018 - 02:35 AM UTC

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FYI, Royal Model has just released a 1/35th figure of “Tank Man”.



Any vendor links please?
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Posted: Saturday, June 30, 2018 - 03:20 AM UTC
My dio is 1/72 and I found the right figure on shapeways but what about the canvas cover?
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Posted: Monday, July 23, 2018 - 02:41 AM UTC

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FYI, Royal Model has just released a 1/35th figure of “Tank Man”.


Thanks. Now the 1/72 diorama of this event is getting along nicely I have decided to do a 1/35 version for myself.
I just ordered the figure and I guess the Takom box will be the best for the tank. I don't like the trumpeteer tracks.
But......I'm confused about the Takom barrel so please, help me out.
Looks like the one on chinese square it the 105mm barrel.
I found a metal one made by Barrel Depot on ebay but would it fit the Takom model?
I'm no tank"man" so I need your help here.
Does anyone know if there are some spare tracks in the box since the chinese ones on the square have some on the front of the tank (and a small lamp (?) on the right site too ).

There's very little aftermarket stuff for this model, like PE, as far as I can "google"...
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Posted: Monday, July 23, 2018 - 02:53 AM UTC
Trumpeter makeas a Type 59B with the proper barrel. Can't attest to the quality, but it is the right type.

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