But .... what shade of grey are WW2 German officer hats and dress shirts? Also, what color for EMs shirt worn under the tunic? I'n working on a couple Wehrmacht tankers for a Tiger II.

Here have a look here

https://www.germanmilitaria.com/Galleries/Uniforms.html

Thanks Kevin for the link ! lots of interesting stuff there !

Yeah, Kevin, you Canadian ain't so bad. Even if you guys did "burn down the White House". (We need you guys to annex us so we can have Trudeau too.) I thought the officer hats were lighter than feldgrau. More akin to FS 36440 Gull Grey. A related question, there were lighter uniforms in "reed green" starting about 43 (?). Does anybody make paint the right color?




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Interesting that the M35 artillery tunics have a distinctive greener color than the other M35 tunics. Even the greatcoats.

Is it possible different arms of service used different suppliers for uniforms? I presume their training was similar to ours. One base for basic then another for specialty training. If artillery school was in Berlin and Panzer shcool (I know. They used black. Humor me.) was in Aachen, would the schools have used local suppliers for uniforms that used different dye sources resulting in some variation?

I know that the quality of material and the strictness deteriorated as the war progressed. It is also why the uniform changed as the war progressed.

I use Vallejo German Uniform and German Field Grey, and I lighten and darken as I see fit.

Great site! I just bookmarked it in references. I have several other various sites for uniforms, but these are all in one place! Thanks!

Is there a link to their rank insignias ? or all ww2 participants ?

There was also an element of variation introduced when individuals (officers only, I suspect) purchased items of clothing privately rather than having them supplied by the Wehrmacht. Such sources would, within reason, use different suppliers of raw materials.

Just as an aside, during WWII, a lot of officer's equipment in Nazi Germany was not supplied through "official" government channels, but was procured individually from private tailors and manufacturers. This accounts for the difference in materials and color shade differences. I used to be a big collector of WWII equipment in my "early" days (but sold everything to pay for college). I had a sizeable amount of German WWII equipment. Among many items I had were privately procured officers caps which generally had the manufacuters name and city emblazoned on the inner lining of the cap-- for instance "Braunschweig Bro. Berlin, 100 Diffenbacher Strasse". Officer equipment was generally much higher in quality than enlisted equipment. Interestingly, this practice continues today, not just in Germany but here in the US as well, and I'm sure it does in other countries. Officers here in the US are given a stipend to procure initial issue and maintain their uniforms (uniform allowance) which appears in their LES (leave and earnings statement). This is why there are often subtle differences in clothing quality and color. It was the same during WWII.
VR, Russ

If your history books include the War of 1812 it should say that:

1) It wasn't Canadians - Canada wasn't a country until 1867 - it was the British.
2) The war was started by the US - British forces around the Empire were recalled to fight Napolean in France. When the British Army was recalled, the US attacked near Niagara, and another army attacked Montreal and burned most of it. The same army then marched down river and proceeded to attack Quebec City. Not a good choice. Quebec City is older than Montreal and most of the buildings are stone, and the streets are narrow and twisty. Each stone building became a fortress and the streets killing grounds. The US army was repulsed, as was the army at Niagara, by local militias. A year later, after the war with Napolean was won, the British Army returned and counter-attacked.
they drove the now decimated US Army back and burned the White House. The only thing that stopped the British was lack of co-operation and incompetence of the Royal Navy.

A brief history.

Yeah, Biggles, I KNOW! In case it escaped you attention, or your memory is slipping ..... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/06/06/cnn-report-trump-war-1812-trudeau-tariffs/677956002/

I don't bother with politics . But if you'd like us to do it again, just lock Trump inside the White House!

And this has what to do with models or the original post? Political crap first thing in the morning, ugh!!!