I recently scored Dragon's M688 Lance Loader-Transporter at 60% off. While flipping through the instructions I could not figure out where the fins to the Lance missile are stored on the LT while in transportation mode. According to all the pictures they are removed. But where are they stored while transporting? I found this book on google. (Operator and Organizational Maintenance Manual, Loader Transporter M688) and I could not locate that information there either.
https://books.google.com/books?id=TCUYAAAAYAAJ&lpg=SA1-PA8&ots=Fm7TdIHRk7&dq=M688%20Lance%20LT&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false
Anyone one know?
Thank you for the help.
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Lance Missile Fins M688 Loader-Transport???
Buckeyes57
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 12:51 AM UTC
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 01:30 AM UTC
I think they were in transport boxes. Sort of like very large brief cases. Dragon has made those boxes too small so the fins are larger than the boxes.
Someone posted here on Armorama describing all the faults and missing parts and how to deal with it.
/ Robin
Someone posted here on Armorama describing all the faults and missing parts and how to deal with it.
/ Robin
GulfWarrior
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 01:38 AM UTC
I sure wish someone would just put out a good kit! The Lance is one of my favorites! I'd LOVE for someone to put out a Pershing II kit in styrene.
ReluctantRenegade
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 01:38 AM UTC
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I think they were in transport boxes. Sort of like very large brief cases.
Indeed...
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 01:58 AM UTC
PSM has released a correcting set for the M688 that includes accurate boxes :
http://www.perfect-scale.de/de/www-perfect-scale-de-3/M688-Lance-LT--Loader-Transporter-.html
H.P.
http://www.perfect-scale.de/de/www-perfect-scale-de-3/M688-Lance-LT--Loader-Transporter-.html
H.P.
alchemymike
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 02:44 AM UTC
The Pershing and the Honest John would be AWESOME!!
alchemymike
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 02:46 AM UTC
I have this kit and it looks awesome... at first glance I think the conversion is better than the Dragon full kit of the loader... I have both.
Buckeyes57
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 03:13 AM UTC
Ahh that is what is in these cases.
http://www.perfect-scale.de/images/product_images/popup_images/35162_13.jpg
http://www.perfect-scale.de/images/product_images/popup_images/35162_13.jpg
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 04:02 AM UTC
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Ahh that is what is in these cases.
http://www.perfect-scale.de/images/product_images/popup_images/35162_13.jpg
Yup! The Mystery Boxes
27-1025
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 04:54 AM UTC
The LT carries two Main Missile Assemblies and the control surfaces in those large flat storage cases. The case are stored flat against inside walls and secured with ratchet tie down straps. The PSM conversion kit is highly recommended. I got mine for the original SPL kit but I'd probably use it for the Dragon LT kit. Also recommend the Eduard PE set.
Buckeyes57
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 06:02 AM UTC
Thank you everyone!!!
I will look into getting the Basic update from PSM and the Eduard PE.
I will look into getting the Basic update from PSM and the Eduard PE.
jon_a_its
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Posted: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 - 08:09 PM UTC
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Thank you everyone!!!
I will look into getting the Basic update from PSM and the Eduard PE.
PLease let us all know if the Eduard edu36371 PE includes decals/markings for the placards?
Their Instructions for the M752 Lance Missile Launcher show usefull engine compartment mesh, tiedowns, & populates the very sparse drivers' compartment, but doesn't show if it has the data plates.
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 12:43 AM UTC
Eduard parts 7, 24 and 25 looks like data plates to me shape wise...
Maybe you could use some M113 generic stencils and placards :
H.P.
Maybe you could use some M113 generic stencils and placards :
H.P.
jon_a_its
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 02:54 AM UTC
Henri-Pierre (Frenchy): the instructions Lance edu36371 can be downloaded & ED parts 7, 24, 25 do look like placards, and someone has indeed used the Archer M113 generic decals on another build, to fill in for the missing decals.
My annoyance with DRAGON is the near complete lack of essential detail in the drivers' compartment out of the box, Looking at the ED instructions you see how much is missing!
My point is that for about UKP£55.00 I expect not to have to spend near the same amount again to replace details that should be there....
My annoyance with DRAGON is the near complete lack of essential detail in the drivers' compartment out of the box, Looking at the ED instructions you see how much is missing!
My point is that for about UKP£55.00 I expect not to have to spend near the same amount again to replace details that should be there....
27-1025
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 03:53 AM UTC
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Henri-Pierre (Frenchy): the instructions Lance edu36371 can be downloaded & ED parts 7, 24, 25 do look like placards, and someone has indeed used the Archer M113 generic decals on another build, to fill in for the missing decals.
My annoyance with DRAGON is the near complete lack of essential detail in the drivers' compartment out of the box, Looking at the ED instructions you see how much is missing!
My point is that for about UKP£55.00 I expect not to have to spend near the same amount again to replace details that should be there....
The Eduard PE set only includes some of the data plates - you have to provide the actual markings to go on them.
jon_a_its
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Posted: Thursday, August 09, 2018 - 05:10 AM UTC
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The Eduard PE set only includes some of the data plates - you have to provide the actual markings to go on them.
Thank you for confirming that, I suspected as much, but how much more useful the decals would be?
I am doing my Lance Launcher closed up....
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