Could the container that comes with Black Dog ALV conversion kit
http://www.blackdog.cz/products/t35/t35208/1.jpg
used as 10 feet container on M1077 LHS flatrack?
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Australian ALV Container Q
HermannB
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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 - 04:09 PM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 - 07:16 PM UTC
eeewww look at the casting scars on that!!
Sorry, got side tracked. The container is standard ISO sized to conform internationally, but wouldn't 10 ft containers be underkill? If I recall correctly the standard size would be from 20 ft for the LHS system?
I'm no expert here, just making an observation
Sorry, got side tracked. The container is standard ISO sized to conform internationally, but wouldn't 10 ft containers be underkill? If I recall correctly the standard size would be from 20 ft for the LHS system?
I'm no expert here, just making an observation
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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 - 07:46 PM UTC
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but wouldn't 10 ft containers be underkill?
Just use 2 of them
H.P.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 05, 2018 - 08:42 PM UTC
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Could the container that comes with Black Dog ALV conmversion
http://www.blackdog.cz/products/t35/t35208/1.jpg
used as 10 feet container on M1077 LHS flatrack?
Hans-Hermann,
What are you trying to achieve?
I presume that you know that Trumpeter makes a 20 ft container.
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2018 - 03:58 AM UTC
Hi Robin,
saw during an exercise three 10 feet container fixed on a M1077 flatrack, might be some good addition to the Trumpeter LHS kit. but I guess it will be cheaper to buy two more 20 feet containers adding to the kit provided one.
saw during an exercise three 10 feet container fixed on a M1077 flatrack, might be some good addition to the Trumpeter LHS kit. but I guess it will be cheaper to buy two more 20 feet containers adding to the kit provided one.
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Hi Robin,
saw during an exercise three 10 feet container fixed on a M1077 flatrack, might be some good addition to the Trumpeter LHS kit. but I guess it will be cheaper to buy two more 20 feet containers adding to the kit provided one.
Cutting out the unnecessary 10 feet from each 20 footer to make 10 footers of the rest?
/ Robin
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2018 - 06:27 AM UTC
Hans-Hermanns images:
Trumpeter 20-foot box
Italeris box
Maybe with some careful cutting and re-assembly ....
Or just use the fittings ...
/ Robin
Black dogs box is not a candidate:
Post heavily edited to get all the images close to each other, saves on scrolling up & down ....
Trumpeter 20-foot box
Italeris box
Maybe with some careful cutting and re-assembly ....
Or just use the fittings ...
/ Robin
Black dogs box is not a candidate:
Post heavily edited to get all the images close to each other, saves on scrolling up & down ....
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2018 - 06:45 AM UTC
Maybe it's just me but it seems that the shapes are different.
The US one looks to be taller and narrower...The Australian one is almost cubical.
H.P.
The US one looks to be taller and narrower...The Australian one is almost cubical.
H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2018 - 09:31 AM UTC
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Maybe it's just me but it seems that the shapes are different.
The US one looks to be taller and narrower...The Australian one is almost cubical.
H.P.
The US ones above are called Tricons (tri, 3 part, container) and are 6' 6" wide each. Three linked together (plus fittings) equals 20', ISO standard size for a container and a flatrack.
There are also 10' Bicons.
Both are a standard 8' tall.
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Posted: Thursday, September 06, 2018 - 04:11 PM UTC
Thanks Gino, now I have a start for research. 
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Could someone please identify the flatrack? looks like a M1077 at first glance, but it isn`t. Maybe a new model of zhe M1077?
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Someone offering Tricons would be a VERY GOOD IDEA !*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!
Would add much visual interest and variety to LHS loads.
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Some container fittings to build your own already available from Mike G. on Shapeways
Would add much visual interest and variety to LHS loads.
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Some container fittings to build your own already available from Mike G. on Shapeways
165thspc
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Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2018 - 04:48 AM UTC
Just posted the following on Mike Goldberg's "3D printing" thread:
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How about the door and back panels** for a standard ISO 6' - 6" TRICON shipping container?
We could get all other needed wall panels by cutting up a standard 20' container kit and with any luck one 20' container would give us enough stock to build 3 TRICONs.
F.Y.I. - You already have the container connector blocks created and in your Shapeways catalog.
Hans-Hermann Photo
Mike Koenig Photo
** Since fork lift access on these smaller containers is front to back rather than cross-ways you might have to do a floor panel as well.
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How about the door and back panels** for a standard ISO 6' - 6" TRICON shipping container?
We could get all other needed wall panels by cutting up a standard 20' container kit and with any luck one 20' container would give us enough stock to build 3 TRICONs.
F.Y.I. - You already have the container connector blocks created and in your Shapeways catalog.
Hans-Hermann Photo
Mike Koenig Photo
** Since fork lift access on these smaller containers is front to back rather than cross-ways you might have to do a floor panel as well.
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 06:08 AM UTC
Here`s a little reading about small containers used by the US Military.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a432729.pdf
BTW Does anyine know what the writing UASU means?
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a432729.pdf
BTW Does anyine know what the writing UASU means?
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 08:01 PM UTC
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BTW Does anyine know what the writing UASU means?
According to this chart, UASU is a prefix used on the (German) Hapag Lloyd Container Line containers...
USAU (along with USAX) is the prefix used on US Army containers (https://www.bic-code.org/container-bic-code/usau/ )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_6346
H.P.
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