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Posted: Monday, September 24, 2018 - 09:57 PM UTC


BRAVO*6 announced the new releases of September 2018. This time Vladi sculpted Grunts of Vietnam War.rnrn

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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 - 01:19 AM UTC
Figures look great, as usual. Really like "Joe", he has a lot of character. Al
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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 - 03:19 AM UTC
WOW,i really like these figures,i can use them for my riverine diorama's.
More grunts (sitting,walking) please.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 - 08:12 AM UTC
Hmmm, I personally would like to see a picture of the trouser leg pocket. It appears that Bravo-6 have fallen into the Verlinden trap and sculpted these with the post-Vietnam RDF trousers.

I do hope that it is just the camera angle on these pictures as it's not something Bravo-6 have made a mistake on before.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 - 12:38 PM UTC
Joe is great and looks exactly like someone I knew way back when. Spooky.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 - 04:03 AM UTC
I like these figures, especially Joe. Of course, I will be converting them a bit to fit the unit and time period, but the base figures are quite nice. Great work once again, Vladi!
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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 - 04:10 AM UTC

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Hmmm, I personally would like to see a picture of the trouser leg pocket. It appears that Bravo-6 have fallen into the Verlinden trap and sculpted these with the post-Vietnam RDF trousers.

I do hope that it is just the camera angle on these pictures as it's not something Bravo-6 have made a mistake on before.



The trouser leg pockets are not the post-Vietnam RDF type. They are sculpted as the Vietnam jungle fatigue three-bellow trouser pockets. I have noticed that in some of the more recent releases that sometimes one of the bellows of the pocket is hard to see and did not cast deeply, but the spacing has been correct. What I have done in these instances is use my knife to deepen the cut where the second bellow goes and they turn out fine.

I know Vladimir Demchenko quite well and he is very detail oriented and does a lot of research for each figure. He is well aware of the uniform details in regards to cut and shape and even has a set of my old ERDLs to use as a guide, so there is no fear that any of his Vietnam releases will have trousers of the RDF type.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 - 04:24 AM UTC

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Hmmm, I personally would like to see a picture of the trouser leg pocket. It appears that Bravo-6 have fallen into the Verlinden trap and sculpted these with the post-Vietnam RDF trousers.

I do hope that it is just the camera angle on these pictures as it's not something Bravo-6 have made a mistake on before.

I was in VN 1971 72 and we absoulutly HAD trouser leg pockets . Both on our "cammies" and "Jungles " !!
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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 - 04:26 AM UTC

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BRAVO*6 announced the new releases of September 2018. This time Vladi sculpted Grunts of Vietnam War.rnrn

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the mosquitos would've eaten him alive !!!



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Posted: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 - 08:03 AM UTC

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I was in VN 1971 72 and we absoulutly HAD trouser leg pockets . Both on our "cammies" and "Jungles " !!



I know that. It's just Verlinden sculpted all his Vietnam trousers as the post war ones where the pleat was in the middle, as opposed to the BDU style cargo pocket.

James (recon) - I'm pleased for the clarification, it must be the angle of the picture, I would have been surprised if Bravo-6 had suddenly started sculpting them wrong after all this time.
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2018 - 06:07 AM UTC

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I was in VN 1971 72 and we absoulutly HAD trouser leg pockets . Both on our "cammies" and "Jungles " !!



I know that. It's just Verlinden sculpted all his Vietnam trousers as the post war ones where the pleat was in the middle, as opposed to the BDU style cargo pocket.

James (recon) - I'm pleased for the clarification, it must be the angle of the picture, I would have been surprised if Bravo-6 had suddenly started sculpting them wrong after all this time.


I'm not that much of a nitpicker . If I was I say how unrealistic the whole squad is ! Its more like Hollywood the RVN !! "joe" would've been eaten alive with mosquitoes and other insects ,especially at night . I never saw anyone walking around with a skull on a stick if he did he would've been the first one shot !! maybe on the wall of his barracks . its fine if your doing a fun dio , but if your a pocket pleats counter, you don't want this !.
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Posted: Thursday, September 27, 2018 - 09:01 AM UTC

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Joe is great and looks exactly like someone I knew way back when. Spooky.



Hell, I knew a guy like that too, and I wasn't even in Nam. We all wore slant pocket OG 107s in 10th Group. He'd cut the sleeves off of his.
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I was in VN 1971 72 and we absoulutly HAD trouser leg pockets . Both on our "cammies" and "Jungles " !!



I know that. It's just Verlinden sculpted all his Vietnam trousers as the post war ones where the pleat was in the middle, as opposed to the BDU style cargo pocket.

James (recon) - I'm pleased for the clarification, it must be the angle of the picture, I would have been surprised if Bravo-6 had suddenly started sculpting them wrong after all this time.


I'm not that much of a nitpicker . If I was I say how unrealistic the whole squad is ! Its more like Hollywood the RVN !! "joe" would've been eaten alive with mosquitoes and other insects ,especially at night . I never saw anyone walking around with a skull on a stick if he did he would've been the first one shot !! maybe on the wall of his barracks . its fine if your doing a fun dio , but if your a pocket pleats counter, you don't want this !.





I'm not that much of a nit picker either. Although I prefer that the details on a figure are correct, if they are a bit off I can correct them myself with some putty if necessary. However, when you are using Bravo 6 figures, the details have been researched and are correct for the type of figure that it may be (SEALs are equipped based off of pictures of actual SEALs, regular Grunts are equipped based on photos of actual Grunts, etc). Since I usually change them from their intended purpose, I add and subtract details to correspond with the scene I am making. I have removed all equipment and filled in areas with putty to depict guys wearing just jungle fatigues without their gear on like I did in my "Breakfast in the Boonies" diorama. For others like my current project, additional gear, ammo belts, etc can be added to suit the scene depicted. I cam currently working on a diorama of a lost Platoon Leader and the NCO who is trying to help him find his position along with a few guys nearby and the RTO. I've equipped them with extra items to match what my friend who is depicted in the diorama and the rest of the patrol was wearing during the incident.

These guys may seem a bit more like Hollywood than one would expect out in the bush, but they are mostly based off of photos of some guys in one of the battalions of the 31st Infantry from the Americal Division in late 1970 - 71. In the photos they were mostly all in t-shirts and cut up jungle shirts and were humping hills that were mostly grass covered offering very little concealment. When my dad was in Vietnam in 1966 through 1968, he never would have been allowed to dress like that out in the field. Now at a firebase, it was a bit different and a bit more lax.

Personally, I get figures mainly for their poses (or parts of the figure) because if you know my work, I convert most of my figures and rarely ever build one like the figure was originally intended. If there are any missing details that I want to add, I just add them. I am sure I will use each of these guys in a diorama or vignette, but they will not look like they do here. Joe's head will be changed out with one that looks more like the real person he is going to depict and the sleeves will be added, but I will be keeping his shirt open because he will be near his track. The other guys will have their arms changed out and jungle shirts put on them.

I guess on larger scale figures I am more of a nit picker about he details being correct since they are bigger and the details are more obvious. There have been several larger scale releases where the pockets have been the wrong type or the gear is not attached in the manner that it would actually sit in real life (example - US ammo pouches attached lower than where the actual connection to the belt would be). Since the actual items are still out there and there are so many photos that can be used for reference these days thanks to the internet and so many Veterans sharing their personal photos, there is no excuse to not sculpt a more accurate Vietnam figure. You can bet your ass that if it were a WWII German figure the sculptor would make every effort to get everything correct.

Anyway, I really like Bravo 6 figures and look forward to converting these and using them in a diorama or vignette.

Cheers,
James
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