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Help - 2.8 cm schwere panzerbüchse 41
Baldpate4
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 02:01 AM UTC
I am hoping someone out there has the info I need. I am working on a 2.8 cm schwere panzerbüchse 41 which will be visible from the underside. The version I am working on has the main gun, wheels, and 2 trailing arms attached to a box style chassis. I am looking for details as to wether the underside of the box style chassis and 2 trailing arms were enclosed or open when viewed from underneath (wierd request - I know). Also, if the chassis is an open design, does anyone have any photos or any details such as the attachment of the main gun or other components visible from underneath.

Thank You
Robert
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 07:23 AM UTC
You have some interesting quests... and I sadly don't have any real answers available for you. What you are seeking is pretty esoteric, I think, and probably not likely easily found in most folk's libraries.

BUT... if you Google that weapon you may well find some pics of it in various circumstances which will enable you to come up with some fair or good idea of what those details may look like. Try a couple of searches with some mods and who knows - something may emerge!

Cheers! Bob
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 07:43 AM UTC
Do you mean you're planning to build a kind of "German portee" ?

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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 07:46 AM UTC
Thanks Bob

I've tried every search I can think of and no luck as of yet. I did find an example in a museum in Alberta Canada - Will try to contact them tomorrow to see if they can help.

If not - Maybe it is time for creative licensing?

Robert
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 07:48 AM UTC

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Do you mean you're planning to build a kind of "German portee" ?

H.P.



HP - I am not fimiliar with the term German Portee?

Robert
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 08:38 AM UTC
From Wikipedia

"A portee is a truck that carries a gun on its bed, such that the gun is not fixed permanently to the vehicle, can be quickly unloaded and can be fired from the truck.

While the term portee can be used to denote any truck carrying a gun on its bed, it is most often used to describe equipment used by British/Commonwealth forces in the North African Campaign of World War II
"

Here's an example :



H.P.
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 10:53 AM UTC
Sir, Thanks for the explination, but, no I'm mot working on a portee.I'm trying to detail out the underside of the gun in the areas of the photo labeled as Trails, upper, and lower mounts as seen at this address. http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2016/08/schwere-panzerbuchse-41.html
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Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2018 - 07:05 PM UTC
Robert L.;

I Googled "German 2.8cm sPzb 41 anti-tank gun" and found quite a few nice pics showing this weapon in various circumstances and set-ups. A few of the more-interesting and detailed pics are to be seen at the following links - maybe these and others in this search might help you extrapolate to your desired aspect and details...

Some detail pics of a gun - Toadman's tankpics.
http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/2.8cm_spzb_41.htm

Tankarchives blogspot:
http://tankarchives.blogspot.com/2016/08/schwere-panzerbuchse-41.html

www.flickr.com/photos/massimofoti/5333778804
www.flickr.com/photos/massimofoti/5333169627

And you may find this "action figure" kit from Germany of interest, too! The pictured gun and mount appear to be pretty detailed - perhaps you can contact them for more pics of their product.
www.actionfiguren-shop.com/en/Figures/WW-II/Germany/Guenther-Kiefer-mit-2-8cm-sPzB41-Exclusive.html

There are several of these guns "out there" in various museums. They came in some different configurations and mounts, and likely one or another museum has the right gun you seek to know more about, and folks may be willing to send you some specified pics of it.

Cheers! Bob
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Posted: Monday, October 29, 2018 - 01:52 AM UTC
Robert,

while i was building mine, done lots of search all around the place. Lower mount, is the part trailing arms are fixed. Upper mount, is the part that ensures turning and swiveling the gun lafete. Lower part slides on suspension block with wheels, ant is fixed by pushing pin "E" To release the catch, you had to turn T handle on "e" (not sure if its 90 or 180 degrees). Picture of suspension block is in the same site you have linked. Both of these pictures can be found in soviet field report/usage manual. Unfortunately, there aren't more detailed pictures in this field report, but there is detailed description of construction. It says that lower box is covered with metal plate from below. So not much to detail the lower part.
Bronco kit CB35141 is quite correct in this area. All you need to do is cover box with styrene. It even has small doors in breech side of the gun, where 6 rounds can be stored.
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Posted: Monday, October 29, 2018 - 11:36 PM UTC
Thanks to all for your assistance.

Darius - Awesome explination and exactly the type of info I was hoping for - Thank You.

Robert
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