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Dragon: Wittman's Last Tigervaranusk
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Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain / España
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Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 - 08:57 PM UTC
There are fewer more famous tanks than the mighty Tiger, and there’s no German ace better known than Hauptsturmführer Michael Wittmann. rnNow Dragon combines the two elements in an impressive 1/35 scale offering that will become available January, 2019
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Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 - 09:03 PM UTC
Probably DS tracks too!
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 - 10:59 PM UTC
Other than the new pointing figure what's exactly "new" in this kit ?
Yankasippi
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 04:29 AM UTC
Folks need to learn about Kurt Knispel so they can find out about other Tigers, too. He was in the 501, non SS and that is probably why he didn't get laurels in the state run news. He would not join the SS. Whittmann had a tanker under him, Otto Blasé who was training to become a Luftwaffe pilot when he was "drafted" into the SS to become a tank commander. His tank, but not him, was also knocked out in the engagement that killed Whittmann and went on to become the Tiger B commander who's Tiger was captured during the Battle of the Bulge and is now at the Fort Benning Infantry museum. In a correspondence I had with a well know author about Blase's life after he lost his tank, the author told me that no one who attended the SS reunions after the war that he talked to had seen anything of Blasé after his tank was captured, so he may have made it through the war but not attended reunions because he was not SS at heart, or that he died, or that he may have emigrated after the war, possibly to Wisconsin in the US. That's where a lot of former German soldiers and SS who got out of Germany went. And there is a possibility that he stayed in Germany and became a Lutheran Minister, dying early this century.
But Kurt Knispel is THE top "ace" of tanks in Germany, maybe in the world.
But Kurt Knispel is THE top "ace" of tanks in Germany, maybe in the world.
obg153
Texas, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 04:44 AM UTC
Other than that figure, what's "new" is the hefty price increase for what is otherwise a re-boxed kit.
Petition2God
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 05:32 AM UTC
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Other than that figure, what's "new" is the hefty price increase for what is otherwise a re-boxed kit.
Hahaha! Deja vu of Dragon's "collector's item" Tiger which may show up as $400 on Ebay.
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 07:40 AM UTC
Thanks Cliff for the history lesson !
It's true that a lot of German POWs stayed in Wisconsin and lots of former soldiers emigrated here too. So why not Herr Knispel ?
My HS German instructor was a former POW from the Harz region.
We also have a Germanfest. The largest German gathering outside of Germany (so the literature states).
Prost
It's true that a lot of German POWs stayed in Wisconsin and lots of former soldiers emigrated here too. So why not Herr Knispel ?
My HS German instructor was a former POW from the Harz region.
We also have a Germanfest. The largest German gathering outside of Germany (so the literature states).
Prost
Tojo72
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 08:51 AM UTC
Nice,but I already built a Dragon 007 a few years ago,still have it on the shelf.But its better then spending big bucks on the Cyber Hobby white Box kit.
alanmac
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 09:20 AM UTC
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It's true that a lot of German POWs stayed in Wisconsin and lots of former soldiers emigrated here too. So why not Herr Knispel ?
Kurt Knispel was killed during the war. His remains were discovered a few years back, identified by his dogtags.
As for the kit, I'm afraid Dragon missed the boat and are trying to play catch up, trading on past glories. The Rye Field Model of this tank is readily available, as good if not better and a whole lot cheaper than the Dragon.
Taeuss
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Posted: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 - 12:44 PM UTC
You know the history lesson was a whole lot more interesting than the announced re-release of Wittmann's Tiger which appeared earlier in the Cyber Hobby domain under kit #6610. In the same re-release frenzy Dragon back in 2005 released their Tiger 1 Late Production "super kit" ( 6253) that included, among an impressive pile of extras, a Gen 2 figure that arguably represented Wittmann himself. And no sign of DS tracks here, thank you. So it would be interesting to see how this latest incarnation fits in the Dragon pantheon of Tiger 1 kits.
bill_c
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Posted: Friday, November 02, 2018 - 09:47 AM UTC
Did David Byrden help out on this one or is this just a recycling of the Cyberhobby White box kits that were supposed to be limited editions?
brekinapez
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Posted: Friday, November 02, 2018 - 11:20 AM UTC
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It's true that a lot of German POWs stayed in Wisconsin and lots of former soldiers emigrated here too. So why not Herr Knispel ?
There were a large number held in Georgia, as well. A small town near me (Tallapoosa) has a museum with a photo of an SS officer who ended up settling there and raised three sons who all enlisted in the U.S. military and fought for us in Vietnam and later.
I actually wrote a topic proposal for a college history class on how the German POWs found greater acceptance in the state than the local black population did at that time.
Tojo72
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Posted: Friday, November 02, 2018 - 12:40 PM UTC
I love the documentary about the German POW’s that we’re interned at Aliceville Alabama.They we’re all DAK,the old footage showed them marching in formation from the trains to the camps,still in DAK uniforms,and caps with all the locals looking on.They stated that the onlookers were watching to see if they had horns and tails.Due to army reps,they ate better then the locals,lived quite well,many worked the local farms and factories.Some loved it so much,they returned after the war to settle in the states with their families.Fascinating story.
brekinapez
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Posted: Friday, November 02, 2018 - 02:22 PM UTC
Well, considering conditions in post-war Europe, who could blame them?