I sure wish they would do some more 1/6 scale stuff first ,like an 88 MM ,a T-34/85, Panzer III, and a Tiger I, then they could make all the 1/144 scale stuff that they wanted too.
Still have their Sherman in 1/6 scale to build, I built the Panzer II great damn kit, large yes, but I built cabinets to put them all in, now would have to get the wife on board for me to build the rest, all my cabinets are full. And no more room for another one.
Dang honey, I think the cabinet looks good in the living room,right next to the couch.
Sorry for the off topic , must be that Swedish coffee.
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sgtreef
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2018 - 03:22 AM UTC
Biggles2
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2018 - 03:30 AM UTC
This discussion has evolved (de-evolved?) into the same old blah-blah-blah whenever the name Dragon is mentioned. The OP was about a "new" 1/144 scale armor line. If there's no further constructive input on that topic, maybe we should just call it quits!
18Bravo
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2018 - 04:33 AM UTC
Whether this is a new venture or a recycling of older kits, their 1:144 quality is pretty impressive. Yeah, I could join long line of people disappointed by this kit or that kit, but the fact remains, if you had built these kits as I have, you've probably be impressed as well. (I know some people have standards so high they are never impressed by anything)
Who knows why they are doing it ? Who cares? You either buy it or you don't. Maybe it's the price some find attractive. Others have already alluded to space issues. Have you seen the average apartment in China? Which brings me to this point:
Yes, they really don't care what you want.
In 1996 I had the privilege of visiting the Tamiya facilities in Shizuoka City, and got to speak to Mr. Tamiya and his reps on this subject. Tamiya's export market is but a fraction of their total sales. And the US market is even less than that. (I don't remember the exact percentages, but a Nexus search would yield one of my old posts on rec.models.scale with those numbers)
Tamiya at that time sold over 2,000,000 mini cars per month in Japan alone. That's a staggering number.
Now, when you consider the populations of China and Hong Kong combined total nearly 1.5 billion, (a smidgen more than Japan's) I venture that they might tailor their market to what they know they can sell there, and everything else is just gravy.
Who knows why they are doing it ? Who cares? You either buy it or you don't. Maybe it's the price some find attractive. Others have already alluded to space issues. Have you seen the average apartment in China? Which brings me to this point:
Yes, they really don't care what you want.
In 1996 I had the privilege of visiting the Tamiya facilities in Shizuoka City, and got to speak to Mr. Tamiya and his reps on this subject. Tamiya's export market is but a fraction of their total sales. And the US market is even less than that. (I don't remember the exact percentages, but a Nexus search would yield one of my old posts on rec.models.scale with those numbers)
Tamiya at that time sold over 2,000,000 mini cars per month in Japan alone. That's a staggering number.
Now, when you consider the populations of China and Hong Kong combined total nearly 1.5 billion, (a smidgen more than Japan's) I venture that they might tailor their market to what they know they can sell there, and everything else is just gravy.
panzerbob01
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2018 - 04:54 AM UTC
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I think I need one of those new RPM Russian T-80U kits!
Bob
That would be "RPG" Bob. Got one, in my stash.
Thanks, Matt! Somehow I knew that it was RPG, but, well, I was just rev'd up! That, and being a lysdectic...
Have it in the stash - how does it actually look, in hand?
Bob
PzDave
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2018 - 05:21 AM UTC
Just a minor point. There was a time when we only had a couple off model companies that did 1/35th scale armor. Now there are so many I can't even keep up with what is available. Same for 54mm military miniatures. There was a time when there was only I/R, Valiant figures and Greenwood and ball etc. Now there are also too many to keep up with. The hobby now has 75mm figures as well as 120mm metal figures as well as resin.
As a modeler I only have a "stash" of 40 or so tank models. Modest by any standard. I also have about 15 120mm resin and plastic Miniart and Tamiya military miniaturs. All modelers build according to their skill and pocketbook can take them. Personally I don't build Dragon kits. Can't afford them and I would like to finish the kit in my lifetime.
As a modeler I only have a "stash" of 40 or so tank models. Modest by any standard. I also have about 15 120mm resin and plastic Miniart and Tamiya military miniaturs. All modelers build according to their skill and pocketbook can take them. Personally I don't build Dragon kits. Can't afford them and I would like to finish the kit in my lifetime.
m4sherman
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2018 - 06:25 AM UTC
[quote]In 1996 I had the privilege of visiting the Tamiya facilities in Shizuoka City, and got to speak to Mr. Tamiya and his reps on this subject. Tamiya's export market is but a fraction of their total sales. And the US market is even less than that. quote]
Were you there for the show? I attended the show twice, it was an eye opener to say the least. We were told those little cars were so popular they were over a million behind in production at the time (1995 I think).
If there is a D kit I want I shop around, and if I can find it at a price I find acceptable I will get it.
Were you there for the show? I attended the show twice, it was an eye opener to say the least. We were told those little cars were so popular they were over a million behind in production at the time (1995 I think).
If there is a D kit I want I shop around, and if I can find it at a price I find acceptable I will get it.
retiredyank
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Posted: Saturday, December 15, 2018 - 07:38 AM UTC
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I think I need one of those new RPM Russian T-80U kits!
Bob
That would be "RPG" Bob. Got one, in my stash.
Thanks, Matt! Somehow I knew that it was RPG, but, well, I was just rev'd up! That, and being a lysdectic...
Have it in the stash - how does it actually look, in hand?
Bob
A little off-topic, but the way my post is going: I won't start on it, until I clear two projects from my bench. Visual inspection promises to be a fun build.
sgtreef
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 02:30 PM UTC
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This discussion has evolved (de-evolved?) into the same old blah-blah-blah whenever the name Dragon is mentioned. The OP was about a "new" 1/144 scale armor line. If there's no further constructive input on that topic, maybe we should just call it quits!
Well they have made some fantastic stuff over the years.
18Bravo
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 02:34 PM UTC
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I was. Tamiya was nice enough to invite me there.
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In 1996 I had the privilege of visiting the Tamiya facilities in Shizuoka City, and got to speak to Mr. Tamiya and his reps on this subject. Tamiya's export market is but a fraction of their total sales. And the US market is even less than that. quote]
Were you there for the show?
I was. Tamiya was nice enough to invite me there.
m4sherman
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 03:30 PM UTC
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Mr. Tamiya was a good host. I was there as part of Tank Workshop.
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Quoted TextIn 1996 I had the privilege of visiting the Tamiya facilities in Shizuoka City, and got to speak to Mr. Tamiya and his reps on this subject. Tamiya's export market is but a fraction of their total sales. And the US market is even less than that. quote]
Were you there for the show?
I was. Tamiya was nice enough to invite me there.
Mr. Tamiya was a good host. I was there as part of Tank Workshop.