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Friul Semovente ATL18 Issue
Brianlee
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 09:54 AM UTC
Hey all !

I just was assembling my Semovente ATL18 tracks and eventhough its two separate bags, they are drilled from the same side ? Is that a mix up from them?

Don't know the Semovente well enough to know

jps
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 10:59 AM UTC
Like you I am pretty ignorant of the Sevomente but I do know that Fruil often gives you both sides identical and one side will have the pin out and one side the pin in.
Brianlee
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 12:08 PM UTC
Right - so the right side will be "pin out" - not really happy with that. I ordered another set and have asked my vendor.


Is that something I have to take up with Friul directly?
gharker
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 12:30 PM UTC
When I built mine I used the Model Victoria tracks.
They are snap together resin.
https://www.modelvictoria.it/product-page/cod-4034-tracks-for-m-series-italian-tanks
Halbcl2
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 01:02 PM UTC
In my experience Friuls come in two packs whether sided or not.
And don't waste your time trying to contact them . . . they never respond.
RLlockie
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 08:08 PM UTC
I also used Model Victoria tracks on mine but have built several sets of Friuls where the links for each side were identical. My solution was to cap the open holes with punched styrene discs attached with cyanoacrylate but a quicker alternative is just to use gel CA to fill the open hole (the gel is less prone to capillary action).
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Posted: Sunday, December 16, 2018 - 09:13 PM UTC

To my eyes it looks like small holes for the pins on the outside of the track.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/M13_40_CFB_Borden_5.jpg








https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/8f/1f/728f1f9e52e2f7b3e16cd797088e32b7.jpg


https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7162/6708486955_002f5647b6_b.jpg


http://www.wwiivehicles.com/italy/vehicle/medium-tank/m13-40-medium-tank/m13-40-medium-tank-06.png
This image has a lot of pixels

Image links will bring up the images in full size and those can be zoomed a little on your screen.

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Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, December 17, 2018 - 06:05 AM UTC
More track close-ups :

http://svsm.org/gallery/semovente_m42?page=2

H.P.
Brianlee
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 10:15 PM UTC
Thanks guys --- those resin tracks look nice. How much clean up? Easy assembly and disassembly to adjust after painting?

So with the Fruils, just keeping the right side pin out and cutting totally flush might be ok?
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Posted: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 - 10:21 PM UTC
Cut the pins flush.
If you really want to spend some work on it you could cut the pins slightly shorter than flush and file the ends of the pin/wire to make the pins recessed


View from the inside outwards on the front end


One side has the recesses visible on the inside, the other has smooth castings

/ Robin
Brianlee
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 - 11:31 AM UTC
Wow - interesting and I see how I could make it work. I was just able to successfully transplant the RB barrel cleanly to the Tamiya piece so I'm pleased with that

I did order a couple of their resin tracks. To those who have used them, are they pretty easy to assemble? Snap fit?
gharker
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Posted: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 - 02:04 PM UTC
This is mine, I do not have a good close up of the resin snap together tracks. They went together easily.

Brianlee
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 12:22 AM UTC
Awesome - model & tracks look great & I can find use in future for the friuls in a North Africa wreck dio.

I see they also make M series models as well - are they all resin I assume?

gharker
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 02:46 AM UTC
Thank you.
I used the M series tracks.
This is an M40-75/18
Brianlee
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Posted: Thursday, December 20, 2018 - 07:25 PM UTC
Are the resin track/snap connections sturdy enough to feed through with the top hull attached?

Brianlee
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Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2018 - 03:39 PM UTC
On subject, anyone know about the pe circular emblem that goes on the front right of the semovente? Its pe and the decal version is silver looking.

I dont see it in any photos and not sure if it would be base color?
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