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US Forces retreat from Syria
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 04:54 AM UTC
The FGM-148 Javelin AT missile looks different with flat shiping end caps.


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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 10:56 AM UTC

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This is misinformation. The US has eliminated ISIS forces, from Syria and is withdrawing.


I'd say there is a certain soon to be ex-SEC DEF who would vehemently disagree with you.

Regarding the kit on those Strykers, I'm fairly certain that's not a Dragon launch tube.
Jupiterblitz
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 12:14 PM UTC
That was something I noticed at first sight, either:

A green stryker without bird cage



BTW: The German word "Rückzug" means both retreat or withdrawal.

I'm pretty sure Hans-Hermann was refering to a Rückzug without
the negative meaning hence withdrawal.
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Posted: Friday, December 21, 2018 - 04:26 PM UTC
Is it SOP to attach the tubes to the side and not the top?
I understand the optics are separate and attached later, but would damage to tube due to small arms or shrapnel render it useless?
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Posted: Saturday, December 22, 2018 - 01:38 PM UTC
I too agree that's not a Dragon ATGM. Dragons were notorious for missing their target.

Sometimes I wonder if the U.S. Army would have been better served by just buying the LAV III off-the-shelf with the 25mm turret instead of converting it into a Stryker.
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 01:32 AM UTC
If not an M47 Dragon (which I still think it is), than what is it, and proof of what you propose, not just flat refusals???


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Sometimes I wonder if the U.S. Army would have been better served by just buying the LAV III off-the-shelf with the 25mm turret instead of converting it into a Stryker.


No, at the time the Stryker was conceived, the requirement was for a light, fast, wheeled APC, not a wheeled IFV like the LAV III. Requirements have changed a bit, hence the Stryker Dragoon (in limited numbers) for use in Europe. Also, the Stryker was supposed to be an interim vehicle and was only supposed to be used until something else could be developed, but still has not yet. I think the Stryker will be around for a while.
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 02:20 AM UTC

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What is that "black" tube thingy hanging on the rear left side in the first picture?
They really look "busy" with equipment and stuff all over the outside.
/ Robin


It is the Javelin!!!
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Posted: Sunday, December 23, 2018 - 02:24 AM UTC

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I too agree that's not a Dragon ATGM. Dragons were notorious for missing their target.

Sometimes I wonder if the U.S. Army would have been better served by just buying the LAV III off-the-shelf with the 25mm turret instead of converting it into a Stryker.


The US Army did just that. There is a new Co in the 82nd ABN with Lav 25A2's (A 4-68 AR). Don't know if they might get the TOW version?
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