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Meng: Leopard 2A7+Maki
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Croatia Hrvatska
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 09:25 PM UTC
MENG announced a new model kit in 1/35 scale. Check out the company's press release.
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Thanks!
pod3105
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 10:12 PM UTC
That is joining my stash!
tanknick22
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Posted: Friday, February 01, 2019 - 10:46 PM UTC
Quoted Text
MENG announced a new model kit in 1/35 scale. Check out the company's press release.
Read the Full News Story
If you have comments or questions please post them here.
Thanks!
I will pass on it
fraleoc
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 01:14 AM UTC
A single of it's kind, short-lived demo-vehicle.
The designation is a misleading creation of KMW PR-office.
Perfect for friends of very special none-fielded AFVs.
Frank
The designation is a misleading creation of KMW PR-office.
Perfect for friends of very special none-fielded AFVs.
Frank
Sgt_Pickle
Kaunas, Lithuania
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 01:20 AM UTC
Pretty anticlimactic. Wish they did a Strv 122 instead
bill_c
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 03:37 AM UTC
I would love to get a great Leopard German MBT kit. I don't know if this is the one, but Meng kits are superb.
panamadan
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 10:09 AM UTC
Too bad that it doesn’t have a dozer blade.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2#/media/File%3ALeo2pso_009.jpg
Dan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2#/media/File%3ALeo2pso_009.jpg
Dan
Sgt_Pickle
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 02:08 PM UTC
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Too bad that it doesn’t have a dozer blade.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2#/media/File%3ALeo2pso_009.jpg
Dan
That's the Leopard 2 PSO not the 2A7+. The PSO also had the L44 gun
panamadan
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 02:31 PM UTC
you're right, but I'd like a dozer blade for a Leo!
Dan
Dan
alainvandam
Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 07:32 PM UTC
Wish they would do an a6M can with barracuda instead!
chnoone
Armed Forces Europe, United States
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 08:04 PM UTC
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Pretty anticlimactic. Wish they did a Strv 122 instead
Roger that !
Cheers
Christopher
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 11:30 PM UTC
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I would love to get a great Leopard German MBT kit. I don't know if this is the one, but Meng kits are superb.
TS-027
TS-016
Posted: Saturday, February 02, 2019 - 11:47 PM UTC
I know it's a one-off demonstrator, but can't see any reason to complain about that - after all the fuss folks made over that Russian tank last year that broke down on its maiden parade in Red Square! And all those "paper panzers" that barely got further than Hitler's cocktail napkin. Me? I'm just interested in whether it's a good likeness of the real prototype - I can then decide if I want one for my collection.
As for wishing they made whatever my own hobby-horse happens to be, I won't let that ruin their day!
As for wishing they made whatever my own hobby-horse happens to be, I won't let that ruin their day!
Blucop
Wisconsin, United States
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 12:40 AM UTC
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A single of it's kind, short-lived demo-vehicle.
The designation is a misleading creation of KMW PR-office.
Perfect for friends of very special none-fielded AFVs.
Frank
Seriously? The hobby is full of kits like this or those esoteric small production aircraft, armor what have you. I will say this....at least there was one (1) produced and that the RWS would/will be outfitted in the future.
panamadan
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 02:42 AM UTC
TIger Models has made two Leo demonstrationors.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tiger-model-4628-leopard-ii-revolution-ii-mbt--1171030
Dan
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/tiger-model-4628-leopard-ii-revolution-ii-mbt--1171030
Dan
Taeuss
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Posted: Sunday, February 03, 2019 - 04:30 PM UTC
I read a design proposal for an urban warfare Leo 2 some time back and while this one addresses most issues raised in the study it missed several crucial ones. On that basis I recently picked up one of Tiger Model's Leopard II Revolution II kits (#4628) which is an excellent kit with what appears to be great detail fidelity and superb Tamiya-like engineering and fit on the parts. As a proposal it appears to present its case well, or as well as anything on tracks that gets caught in an urban environment can and still survive. And it looks darned impressive to boot! My vote would be for that kit over the A7 proposal. I am kicking around painting mine in a modified Berlin Brigade Urban scheme, though the masking is a bit of a repetitive pain.
BunkerBuster
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 01:58 AM UTC
I'm confused, some folks are saying this is a one off demonstrator, but google is saying otherwise. Sounds like Qatar has taken deliveries and Hungary just inked a deal to buy 44.
https://defence-blog.com/army/photos-qatars-leopard-2a7-main-battle-tank.html
https://defence-blog.com/army/photos-qatars-leopard-2a7-main-battle-tank.html
aristeidis
Attica, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 02:16 AM UTC
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I'm confused, some folks are saying this is a one off demonstrator, but google is saying otherwise. Sounds like Qatar has taken deliveries and Hungary just inked a deal to buy 44.
https://defence-blog.com/army/photos-qatars-leopard-2a7-main-battle-tank.html
All different variant for Qatar. The version sold to Qatar is a lot different than the variant offering from MENG. It has a lot different turret, side baskets and different RWS. The turret is most like LEO2A6 HEL. Qatar's variant is the conversion offered by Y-MODELLE: http://www.y-modelle.de/leopard-2-a7plus-2015-p-3233.html
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Quoted TextToo bad that it doesn’t have a dozer blade.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard_2#/media/File%3ALeo2pso_009.jpg
Dan
That's the Leopard 2 PSO not the 2A7+. The PSO also had the L44 gun
The PSO variant was announced by HOBBYBOSS in the past according to following LINK: https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/168100#2315987
but no news since then
pod3105
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 04:17 AM UTC
Apologies if i'm misunderstanding the post, but the Y-Modelle conversion is NOT for the PSO version.There are no engine deck components or dozer blade.
Ignore me- just re-read the post. My bad. The formatting on the comments box gave the original post a completely different look.
Ignore me- just re-read the post. My bad. The formatting on the comments box gave the original post a completely different look.
bill_c
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 05:56 AM UTC
[quote]
OK, which one is the "right" one? Both are OOS at Sprue Bros. right now.
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I would love to get a great Leopard German MBT kit.
TS-027
TS-016
OK, which one is the "right" one? Both are OOS at Sprue Bros. right now.
Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 09:44 AM UTC
[quote]
Hi Bill,
Both kits are great - it just depends on which version of the Leopard you like best. Personally I prefer the earlier 2A4 with its clean boxy turret, before they started adding all the extra angled armour and stuff that makes modern Leopards look cluttered. Then again, I prefer the older Leopard 1 to the bigger Leopard 2 series...
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Quoted TextI would love to get a great Leopard German MBT kit.
TS-027
TS-016
OK, which one is the "right" one? Both are OOS at Sprue Bros. right now.
Hi Bill,
Both kits are great - it just depends on which version of the Leopard you like best. Personally I prefer the earlier 2A4 with its clean boxy turret, before they started adding all the extra angled armour and stuff that makes modern Leopards look cluttered. Then again, I prefer the older Leopard 1 to the bigger Leopard 2 series...
BunkerBuster
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 10:47 AM UTC
So more googling and it would seem this is actually the 2A7V, not the 2A7+. New version for the German MOD.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/september_2017_global_defense_security_news_industry/rheinmetall_to_upgrade_104_leopard_2_mbt_to_standard_2a7v_for_german_army.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/september_2017_global_defense_security_news_industry/rheinmetall_to_upgrade_104_leopard_2_mbt_to_standard_2a7v_for_german_army.html
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 11:04 AM UTC
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Right one in which sense?
One is for the older 2A4 version, vertical turret front,
and the other is the 2A7 which has an arrow shaped front to the turret. So they are both right depending on what you are looking for. I haven't kept track of what the "latest and greatest" is when it comes to Leopards.
If you asked about the best kit for Leopard 2A7 in a separate thread it would probably attract the real Leo-experts and get you some good answers.
Just to add to the confusion:
2A5 by Tamiya
2A6 by Tamiya
2A6 by Italeri
HobbyBoss
Revell
Edit: This was/is revells own plastic:
but this one is an Italeri rebox:
Edited to correct mistakes regarding the origin of the two Revell kits, see post by Ed Granger below
/ Robin
Quoted Text
Quoted TextI would love to get a great Leopard German MBT kit.
TS-027
TS-016
OK, which one is the "right" one? Both are OOS at Sprue Bros. right now.
Right one in which sense?
One is for the older 2A4 version, vertical turret front,
and the other is the 2A7 which has an arrow shaped front to the turret. So they are both right depending on what you are looking for. I haven't kept track of what the "latest and greatest" is when it comes to Leopards.
If you asked about the best kit for Leopard 2A7 in a separate thread it would probably attract the real Leo-experts and get you some good answers.
Just to add to the confusion:
2A5 by Tamiya
2A6 by Tamiya
2A6 by Italeri
HobbyBoss
Revell
Edit: This was/is revells own plastic:
but this one is an Italeri rebox:
Edited to correct mistakes regarding the origin of the two Revell kits, see post by Ed Granger below
/ Robin
panamadan
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 02:33 PM UTC
panamadan
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 02:35 PM UTC
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So more googling and it would seem this is actually the 2A7V, not the 2A7+. New version for the German MOD.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/september_2017_global_defense_security_news_industry/rheinmetall_to_upgrade_104_leopard_2_mbt_to_standard_2a7v_for_german_army.html
Ken,
I was thinking the same thing after looking at this site-
https://www.armyrecognition.com/germany_german_army_heavy_armoured_vehicle_tank_uk/leopard_2a7_mbt_main_battle_tank_technical_data_pictures_video.html
Dan