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Schwere Plattformwagen Type 80 Schwere Plattf
phantom8747
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 02:45 AM UTC
What was the biggest tank transported on this railcar? Could the Kingtiger be transported on it? Thanks.
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 02:51 AM UTC
For sure, it was capable of having loads up to 80 Tons. Its called SSyms 80 Tons, hey hey.
Kind regards,
Robert Jan
Kind regards,
Robert Jan
bill_c
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Posted: Monday, February 04, 2019 - 07:28 AM UTC
It's the only car that could carry either Tiger tank.
phantom8747
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 01:39 AM UTC
thanks again I didn't know it was capable of 80 tons. Might want to do a dio with a KingTiger and transport track.
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 02:31 AM UTC
H.P.
bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 04:28 AM UTC
That's an excellent photo, H.P. because it so clearly shows the "transport" tracks that were narrower than the "road" tracks used on BOTH Tigers. This was due to the physical constraints of the German rail tunnels that would not allow a tank loaded onto the flatcar to pass through.
So the crews had to remove the regular tracks, switch to narrower "transfer" tracks, roll up the regular tracks and store them on the cars, then reverse the whole thing at the disembarkation point.
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 04:40 AM UTC
Another view of the "transport" tracks :
H.P.
H.P.
bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 06:33 AM UTC
Most interesting, mon ami. Was necessity and shortages the deciding factor here? Or did they get attacked at the disembarkation point?
Frenchy
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Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 09:17 AM UTC
I don't know Bill....I'm still searching for a caption
Here you will find several other examples of King Tiger fitted with "transport" tracks ("Verladeketten") :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/panzerdb/albums/72157623853333977/page1
I guess sometimes the crews had no alternative...
H.P.
Here you will find several other examples of King Tiger fitted with "transport" tracks ("Verladeketten") :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/panzerdb/albums/72157623853333977/page1
I guess sometimes the crews had no alternative...
H.P.
Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 01:43 PM UTC
Been meaning to do this photographic experiment for some time now but your discussion pushed me over the edge. Yep! Too big to fit unless you take off the fenders and exchange the travel tracks for the Kombat Ketten.
Dragon KT with Porsche Turret (WIP), Tamiya Zimmerit stickers and Dragon Ssy Plattformwagen.
Dragon KT with Porsche Turret (WIP), Tamiya Zimmerit stickers and Dragon Ssy Plattformwagen.
Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 - 02:03 PM UTC
Sorry - I am just referring to the physical width of the car vs. the width of the KT.
I realize I am showing the four axle flatcar rather than the six axle in my photos.
I realize I am showing the four axle flatcar rather than the six axle in my photos.