Hello
Finishing off some old shelf queen 251's and I find myself a bit stuck.
The old Osprey book mentions the radio on the /9 being relocated to the rear rt near the storage bin (pictured below on an AFV 251/9)

It also mentions the radio operators seat being removed and the area used for stowage on the /22
Not many of the /22 were produced the best interior photo I can find, seems to show the radio and operators seat missing.


Many photos show the /22 with the antenna in the 'standard location' in the rt front, behind where the radio operator seat was located.
The right side wall is filled with 75mm ammunition bin, so the radio seems not to be located there. But locating the radio behind the driver, the same location used in the /9, and running the antenna lead forward, across under the drivers roof and rearwards to the 'standard' radio location seems wasteful and overly complicated as well.

Anyone got a better interior pic than I have been able to find of the radio location?

Mike

I did a build several years ago and read a reference that I cannot recall now. It sid the radio was moved to the rear right side of the fighting compartment and the bench and stowage bin on that side were removed. Sorry I don’t have more specific details.

I built a Sdkfz251/9 a few years ago and the radio was moved to the location that you've got yours in as the radio ops seat was taken out on that version as well due to the gun mount. The antenna was moved to just above the radio position so you don't have to reroute the wiring lol. I found a wiring diagram somewhere online which illustrated how to wire it up in it's entireity ie to the speaker, transformer etc but like an idiot I can't remember where I saved it to. All your wiring however stays around your radio. Hope that's of some help.

Thanks for the replies guys.
My dilemma is that most in-action pics (not the prototype shots) show the antenna in that standard Rt front location, necessitating a re-route of the radio to antenna wire. I'll post more pics later.

Given that my readings in Panzerwrecks and Panzer tracts mention /22's being rebuilt from /9's. I'm likely to go with the left rear mount, ala the 251/9 pictured above, and snake the antenna cabling across the face of the gun mount to the 'standard' rt side antenna mounting location.

The Tiger Model designs has a great wiring diagram, as does the WWP book "Wireless for the Wehrmacht"

Mike

ok, so the Nuts and Bolts book on the 251/9 confirms that location




And after flipping through all 18 (!!) Panzerwrecks... those guys have GOT to do an index...
I found... precious little.
Quite a shy vehicle.

Vol 2

Has two pictures from a war booty train in Yugoslavia. Interestingly with odd front tow hooks,handles for the radiator and engine hatch openings, a visor on the former radio operators side (no blanking plate) and no antenna.


Vol 6

ohhhh sooooo close...Czechslovakia 1945

looks like an antenna mount there on the left side of the photo
annnddd ALMOST exactly the pic needed, but not.


and later by a czech roadside
Interesting for non-standard shovel mount, looks like visor blanking plate and an antenna on the far side under the elevated gun.



vol 10
has two more with 'standard' antenna locations
the second with a visor blanking plate and likely a converted /9



and lastly vol 18 from a czech air base

But other than one having an antenna mount on the drivers side, no help...

Anyone got more pics?
Mike

These pics might help:
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/archive1944to1945/sd-kfz-251-22-montages-t128.html

http://www.pietvanhees.nl/251/04-251-22.htm

I'd opt for a location were the radio could be used from the bench. However, in the /9 it was fitted next to the main gun ammo stowage box...

Regards,

Marc