Hi Everyone,
I was wondering something about the British Austin Tilly vehicle. While it seems to have been present nearly everywhere during the war I don't recall ever seeing a photo of it hauling a trailer of any sort.
Was this machine too light to be used as a mover for much of anything other than what it could hold? The British 10CWT trailer, despite being largely constructed of wood, still seems to be a bit much (in my thinking) for the little truck to manage. The British Airborne trailer would seem like a good fit but I don't know about it's usage outside the Airborne duties.
Does anyone know about this amazing little truck's towing duties if any?
thanks,
Jim
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What trailer for Austin Tilly?
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 12:42 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 01:55 PM UTC
I found a post on the Maple Leaf forum stating that the Austin Tilly did not have a tow hook. However one of the posters commented he had seen a picture of a Austin towing a trailer, but had no idea how it was done.
Those are nifty little trucks, but not designed for much more than light duty.
Those are nifty little trucks, but not designed for much more than light duty.
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 08:41 PM UTC
Thanks for the reply! I was thinking that might be the case. Given it's small size and 10 horsepower rating I didn't think that it would be a candidate for much towing duty. Great little machines though and seemingly quite popular.
thanks,
Jim
thanks,
Jim
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 09:52 PM UTC
The "10 HP" actually had a 21 horsepower engine
The "number + HP" designations define the power in some kind of roundabout way, the official tax rating was 9.996 hp.
The Austin 'Tilly' was based on the Austin 10
which had a Austin Ten-Four 1125 cc engine:
Configuration straight-4
Displacement 1,125 cc (69 cu in)[1]
Cylinder bore 63.5 mm (2.50 in)[1]
Piston stroke 89 mm (3.5 in)[1]
Block material cast iron, the crankshaft carried on three bearings, the pistons of low expansion aluminium alloy[1]
Head material detachable
Valvetrain side-valve
Fuel system carburettor supplied by petrol pump, induction and exhaust manifolds cast in one piece to provide a hot spot. ignition by coil and battery[1]
Fuel type petrol supplied by pump from a 6 gallons tank at the rear of the car[1]
Oil system by gearwheel pump forced to crankshaft, camshaft and big end bearings[1]
Cooling system fan and thermosyphon, automatic thermostat[1]
Output
Power output 21 bhp (16 kW; 21 PS) @ 3,400 rpm[1]
20 bhp (15 kW; 20 PS) @ 2,600 rpm[2]
Tax rating: 9.996 hp[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilly_(vehicle)
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_10
Maybe this page could provide something useful:
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/trailers.htm
Maybe go for a "what-if" rolling on two motorcycle wheels,
similar to the German Infanteriekarren
This trailer was built to be towed by an Austin Chummy
http://www.southernsevens.co.uk/lightweight-austin-seven-trailer-built-towed-chummy-includes-towbar-towing-vehicle/
The Austin Chummy was based on the Austin 7 (or was it just a nickname??) which was a smaller car than the Austin 10.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_7
Austin 10 RAF Staff car hauling a 1930's trailer:
/ Robin
The "number + HP" designations define the power in some kind of roundabout way, the official tax rating was 9.996 hp.
The Austin 'Tilly' was based on the Austin 10
which had a Austin Ten-Four 1125 cc engine:
Configuration straight-4
Displacement 1,125 cc (69 cu in)[1]
Cylinder bore 63.5 mm (2.50 in)[1]
Piston stroke 89 mm (3.5 in)[1]
Block material cast iron, the crankshaft carried on three bearings, the pistons of low expansion aluminium alloy[1]
Head material detachable
Valvetrain side-valve
Fuel system carburettor supplied by petrol pump, induction and exhaust manifolds cast in one piece to provide a hot spot. ignition by coil and battery[1]
Fuel type petrol supplied by pump from a 6 gallons tank at the rear of the car[1]
Oil system by gearwheel pump forced to crankshaft, camshaft and big end bearings[1]
Cooling system fan and thermosyphon, automatic thermostat[1]
Output
Power output 21 bhp (16 kW; 21 PS) @ 3,400 rpm[1]
20 bhp (15 kW; 20 PS) @ 2,600 rpm[2]
Tax rating: 9.996 hp[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilly_(vehicle)
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_10
Maybe this page could provide something useful:
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/trailers.htm
Maybe go for a "what-if" rolling on two motorcycle wheels,
similar to the German Infanteriekarren
This trailer was built to be towed by an Austin Chummy
http://www.southernsevens.co.uk/lightweight-austin-seven-trailer-built-towed-chummy-includes-towbar-towing-vehicle/
The Austin Chummy was based on the Austin 7 (or was it just a nickname??) which was a smaller car than the Austin 10.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_7
Austin 10 RAF Staff car hauling a 1930's trailer:
/ Robin
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Posted: Sunday, March 31, 2019 - 10:08 PM UTC
If accuracy is not an issue, you can hitch it to a what-if custom-built camper trailer
https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=257303
H.P.
https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=257303
H.P.