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AFV Club: Centurion MK.3varanusk
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Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 09:10 PM UTC
AFV Club announces a Centurion MK.3
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M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 09:41 PM UTC
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AFV Club announces a Centurion MK.3
Read the Full News Story
If you have comments or questions please post them here.
Thanks!
Thank You, Carlos!
MORE welcome news!!! ESPECIALLY for British Armor fans!!!
Vodnik
Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 09:44 PM UTC
Those are not correct Mk.3 hull stowage boxes... It looks like someone added side panels from Mk.3 boxes to Mk.5 box tops.
Also I believe that Besa MG barrel tip / flash suppressor should stick out from the mantlet.
EDIT: I thought that those sponson boxes are the sample kit builder mistake, but they already had that error in the CAD drawing:
So they are probably not included in the kit...
Also I believe that Besa MG barrel tip / flash suppressor should stick out from the mantlet.
EDIT: I thought that those sponson boxes are the sample kit builder mistake, but they already had that error in the CAD drawing:
So they are probably not included in the kit...
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 - 11:09 PM UTC
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Those are not correct Mk.3 hull stowage boxes... It looks like someone added side panels from Mk.3 boxes to Mk.5 box tops.
Also I believe that Besa MG barrel tip / flash suppressor should stick out from the mantlet.
EDIT: I thought that those sponson boxes are the sample kit builder mistake, but they already had that error in the CAD drawing:
So they are probably not included in the kit...
Hello, Pawel!
You have very good eyes!
Maybe AFV CLUB will correct these errors before the model itself goes on the market..?
Bravo1102
New Jersey, United States
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 12:13 AM UTC
I saw it explained by someone at Bovington and an acknowledged Cent expert that the only real difference between a Mark 3 and 5 was the coaxial machine gun.
The storage boxes appeared during Mark 3 production and Cents in Korea had them.
But it would be nice to see the earlier boxes considering they did all the work for the Mark 1, why not everything for the Mark 3?
The Mark 1 can be seen in the Afv-club display so maybe we'll see it in a Afv-club box as opposed to the Girls und Panzer der Film Platz boxing.
The storage boxes appeared during Mark 3 production and Cents in Korea had them.
But it would be nice to see the earlier boxes considering they did all the work for the Mark 1, why not everything for the Mark 3?
The Mark 1 can be seen in the Afv-club display so maybe we'll see it in a Afv-club box as opposed to the Girls und Panzer der Film Platz boxing.
Vodnik
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 12:22 AM UTC
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I saw it explained by someone at Bovington and an acknowledged Cent expert that the only real difference between a Mark 3 and 5 was the coaxial machine gun.
The storage boxes appeared during Mark 3 production and Cents in Korea had them.
That's true, I've seen photos of Mk3s in Korea with late boxes, but early boxes were more common. And those boxes on a model shown in the article pictures are messed up - half early and half late...
Also considering that change from Besa to Browning coax was the reason of Mk3 to Mk5 designation change, it is even more suprising omission that Besa barrel is not visible in the model mantlet!
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But it would be nice to see the earlier boxes considering they did all the work for the Mark 1, why not everything for the Mark 3?
Sponson boxes in their/Platz A41 kit had smooth cover lids, without the X-shaped reinforcements... I don't know if this is an error, or were A41 boxes different from those used in Mk.3 and other earlier production marks?...
Bravo1102
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 12:31 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI saw it explained by someone at Bovington and an acknowledged Cent expert that the only real difference between a Mark 3 and 5 was the coaxial machine gun.
The storage boxes appeared during Mark 3 production and Cents in Korea had them.
That's true, I've seen photos of Mk3s in Korea with late boxes, but early boxes were more common. And those boxes on a model shown in the article pictures are messed up - half early and half late...Quoted Text
But it would be nice to see the earlier boxes considering they did all the work for the Mark 1, why not everything for the Mark 3?
Sponson boxes in their/Platz A41 kit had smooth cover lids, without the X-shaped reinforcements... I don't know if this is an error, or were A41 boxes different from those used in Mk.3 and other earlier production marks?...
The A41 were plain covers. Bovington was consulted for that kit. But half and half on the Mark 3?
They hire a former Dragon black label guy?
zapper
Skåne, Sweden
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 01:12 AM UTC
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They hire a former Dragon black label guy?
AFV Club have been a bit confused when it comes to their Shot Kal Gimel and Dalet releases, so they seem to be doing fine on their own.
I pointed out the boxes when they displayed a test build a year ago at Shizuoka 2018. Last fall they showed the new sprue added and it did not contain the top part for the top loading bins. ... as were pointed out to them again.
Well... fingers crossed and all that...
Cheers,
/E
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 06:17 AM UTC
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I saw it explained by someone at Bovington and an acknowledged Cent expert that the only real difference between a Mark 3 and 5 was the coaxial machine gun.
The storage boxes appeared during Mark 3 production and Cents in Korea had them.
But it would be nice to see the earlier boxes considering they did all the work for the Mark 1, why not everything for the Mark 3?
The Mark 1 can be seen in the Afv-club display so maybe we'll see it in a Afv-club box as opposed to the Girls und Panzer der Film Platz boxing.
Yes, b-b-but, but... They can charge MORE MONEY for the "GIRLS und PANZER" stuff...
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Thursday, May 09, 2019 - 06:18 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextI saw it explained by someone at Bovington and an acknowledged Cent expert that the only real difference between a Mark 3 and 5 was the coaxial machine gun.
The storage boxes appeared during Mark 3 production and Cents in Korea had them.
That's true, I've seen photos of Mk3s in Korea with late boxes, but early boxes were more common. And those boxes on a model shown in the article pictures are messed up - half early and half late...Quoted Text
But it would be nice to see the earlier boxes considering they did all the work for the Mark 1, why not everything for the Mark 3?
Sponson boxes in their/Platz A41 kit had smooth cover lids, without the X-shaped reinforcements... I don't know if this is an error, or were A41 boxes different from those used in Mk.3 and other earlier production marks?...
The A41 were plain covers. Bovington was consulted for that kit. But half and half on the Mark 3?
They hire a former Dragon black label guy?
Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Friday, May 10, 2019 - 03:50 AM UTC
Wow, what a nice change of pace: an AFV that actually existed! These were great tanks in their day and are still performing useful duty in some countries, I'm sure. Now there's longevity! The kit is most welcome.