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The Bodi: US Sergeant WWIIMaki
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 02:13 AM UTC
The Bodi informed us on their latest figure release.
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Taeuss
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Posted: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 - 02:49 PM UTC
Nice casual pose.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Thursday, May 16, 2019 - 06:54 AM UTC
Thank You, Mario!
I have several criticisms of the figure himself, and of the color choices used by the artist who painted the sample figure. Other than that, I will probably buy this little guy and will make my own changes, accordingly...
That's all, folks...
I have several criticisms of the figure himself, and of the color choices used by the artist who painted the sample figure. Other than that, I will probably buy this little guy and will make my own changes, accordingly...
That's all, folks...
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, May 16, 2019 - 10:50 AM UTC
Are you objecting to the color of the Parsons jacket, and the gaiters?
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Friday, May 17, 2019 - 09:10 PM UTC
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Are you objecting to the color of the Parsons jacket, and the gaiters?
Hi, Biggles!
Yes and no- "Color" is perceived differently by individual people, i.e, color perception varies from person to person. That's just a "fact of life". IMO, the figure's Trousers should be a different color than what is represented by that particular painter; most modelers represent the WWII US Army Wool Trousers in Brown, which they were not.
My biggest criticism of the figure is that his M1 Steel Helmet is too small, and not quite the right "shape". Most hobby manufacturers get this detail wrong, anyway...
If I bought this figure, I would have to either substitute one of my 1/35 WARRIORS WWII US GI Heads or, I would need to perform some "plastic/resin surgery" by trimming the figure's Helmet off, (this guy has a pretty neat face), and I'd need to "sacrifice" another of my WARRIORS WWII US GI Heads, just for the Helmet. That, IMO, would seem to be wasteful. Or, I could use another type of WWII US headgear, altogether. Also, it wouldn't be very hard for me to trim and re-sculpt the figure's helmet into an Overseas Cap, or the crown of an HBT "Daisy Mae" hat, to which I would then add an appropriately-shaped paper "brim" to the crown of his Daisy Mae. The same could be done if I were to re-sculpt the Helmet into the crown of a US-style "Ball Cap" or a "Campaign Hat"; I would then add the appropriate "bill" or "brim".
In addition, I could also use a HORNET WWII US Head with M1 Helmet, but I find that HORNET sculpts their US M1 Helmets a bit too small and not quite in the right shape, as well.
I've fashioned "civilian headgear" by using the above methods many times. Another alternative would be to use an M1 Helmet out of the old DRAGON 6054 US Tank Crew (NW Europe 1944) figure set.
In my opinion, the figure's pistol holster should also be represented in a "warmer" shade of Brown leather. His "Russet"-colored Service Shoes by contrast, are OK...
I happen to like the "look" of the US M1938 Leggings, (gaiters), and I would perform an "amputation" of this figure's "legs" about three-quarters of the way up to his knees. I would scavenge the "Leggings and Combat Shoes" parts, once again, from the aforementioned DRAGON US Tank Crew set.
Yes, I think that this figure's 1941 OD Field Jacket, ofttimes referred to as the "Parsons Jacket", isn't quite the right color. The MK.35 figure modeler chose to use a color that is much closer to the Green of the US WWII HBT material. But then, that's my opinion and nothing more. The actual color of the "Parsons Jacket" is LIGHT OD with a Tannish-cast. I have 2 ORIGINAL "Parsons Jackets" in my extensive WWII Uniform collection and neither of them are a color match to "HBT Green". They DO however match each other very closely in color. The figure's "gaiters" can barely be seen, so I'm not going to go into a long diatribe over the color of the M1938 Leggings- The colors of the Leggings varied from manufacturer to manufacturer.
My own execution in constructing and painting this figure would have been different from what the MK.35 modeler represented in this sample figure, that's all. You've asked me a question Biggles, and the above has merely been my response...
In my initial post in this thread, I hadn't intended to go into any detail regarding my opinions and criticisms of this figure, or what I would have done instead. I say this because inevitably, I would have raised SOMEONE's hackles NO MATTER WHAT I WOULD OR COULD HAVE SAID...
But now it seems that I will be raising some hackles anyway. And yes, I'm going to continue using "caps" wherever I want to, DESPITE the idiotic claims of my trampling all over "Internet etiquette". IMO, "Internet etiquette" is a bogus set of asinine rules which some social-media bully-insomniac-pseudo-boffin of a prig made up in their dark, dank cellar during a marathon bout of video games versus sleeping pills...
So let's just leave things as they are...
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Posted: Saturday, May 18, 2019 - 03:01 AM UTC
I would agree the Parsons jacket is not a typical color (typical being a beigey/cement/light khaki color), but they did appear in rather greenish (pea-green) shades. His shirt should probably be the same color to match the pants. The leather holster does appear a bit light - but it could be just faded, or lightly dyed leather.
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Posted: Saturday, May 18, 2019 - 10:59 PM UTC
Hi, Biggles!
Yes, some of the "Parsons" Jackets have appeared in more of a Green-ish color, but one should be careful of the shades of Green. I say this because some modelers have tried to match the color of the 1941 OD Field Jacket (Second Pattern) "Parsons" Jacket with Chinese REPRODUCTION items. The Chinese Reproduction items of US WWII clothing items tend to be from a "little bit" too Green to RIDICULOUSLY too Green... ORIGINAL WWII "Parsons" Jackets are hard to find, as are original M1943 Combat Jackets and Trousers, which were more "Olive" in color than what reproduction M1943 items are made of. The "repro" 1942-style and M1943 stuff that is being peddled is also too Green, and too light in weight; these are generally made in China. Some "repro" WWII items can be downright GARBAGE- What is represented in certain vendors' photographs is NOT what you're going to get after you've spent a goodly amount of cash...
If one is a collector or a reenactor of the veritable galaxy of WWII German military items, one also needs to be mindful; the "less-expensive" repros of German WWII Uniform items are also made of decidedly shoddy materials, and they tend to be caricatures of the real thing, rather than "true" repros...
As I stated in my previous post, many modelers paint the WWII US Army OD Wool Service Trousers BROWN, which is incorrect; They were a Brownish shade of Olive Drab, but decidedly NOT Brown. These OD Wool Trousers were officially manufactured in three different shades of OD; the three shades of OD varied a bit from manufacturer to manufacturer, but not by much. These shades were:
OD Dark Shade 33
M1937 Light Shade OD and,
M1939 OD, which is also the proper shade of OD for the M1939 Wool Serge Service Coat
Please NOTE that I am referring to Enlisted Mens', or EMs, (equivalent to the British Army's "Other Ranks"), clothing and not Officers' clothing items. Officers' clothing varied somewhat as to quality, but not as much in color. Officers' clothing had its own set of special colors and materials, according to Mil. Specs, but there were many Officers who could afford to have certain items of their Service Uniforms (Class A) "custom-made and tailored". Officers' Uniforms were more stylish and of better quality than the EMs' Uniforms, however ALL Officers' "custom-made and tailored" clothing items STILL had to conform to Mil. Specs as to design and a very close "approximation" of the required colors.
During WWII, US Army Officers many times wore certain EMs' clothing items in Combat Areas, for obvious reasons, these being the OD Wool Service Trousers and Service Shirts, "Parsons" Jackets, Russet Leather Service Shoes, M1938 Leggings, Web Gear, etc. In Rear Areas, Officers tended to wear SOME of their better-quality Officers' Uniform items, these being their own various Service Shirts and Trousers, which they "bloused" into their M1938 Leggings or their "Corcoran" Parachutist's Oxblood-colored Combat Boots, but they kept their "Combat Uniform" items handy for "just in case"...
High-ranking US Army Officers had much more leeway in what they chose to wear at any given time in Rear or Forward Areas, and this tended to spill over when they chose to venture into "Combat Areas". General George S. Patton was a classic example; he wore a veritable MYRIAD of different Uniforms wherever he chose to go...
EMs' Wool or Wool Flannel Service Shirts were also manufactured in several shades of OD, the lightest shade of which was sometimes referred to as the "Mustard" shade. Summer-weight "Khakis" and the M1943 Combat Uniform items are a different story altogether, since we were specifically discussing the US Army EMs' 1942-style" Combat Uniforms as seen in Northwestern Europe, circa Spring 1944, and in some cases, right on up to and beyond VE Day...
Thanks for your time, and I hope that I've clarified a few things...
Yes, some of the "Parsons" Jackets have appeared in more of a Green-ish color, but one should be careful of the shades of Green. I say this because some modelers have tried to match the color of the 1941 OD Field Jacket (Second Pattern) "Parsons" Jacket with Chinese REPRODUCTION items. The Chinese Reproduction items of US WWII clothing items tend to be from a "little bit" too Green to RIDICULOUSLY too Green... ORIGINAL WWII "Parsons" Jackets are hard to find, as are original M1943 Combat Jackets and Trousers, which were more "Olive" in color than what reproduction M1943 items are made of. The "repro" 1942-style and M1943 stuff that is being peddled is also too Green, and too light in weight; these are generally made in China. Some "repro" WWII items can be downright GARBAGE- What is represented in certain vendors' photographs is NOT what you're going to get after you've spent a goodly amount of cash...
If one is a collector or a reenactor of the veritable galaxy of WWII German military items, one also needs to be mindful; the "less-expensive" repros of German WWII Uniform items are also made of decidedly shoddy materials, and they tend to be caricatures of the real thing, rather than "true" repros...
As I stated in my previous post, many modelers paint the WWII US Army OD Wool Service Trousers BROWN, which is incorrect; They were a Brownish shade of Olive Drab, but decidedly NOT Brown. These OD Wool Trousers were officially manufactured in three different shades of OD; the three shades of OD varied a bit from manufacturer to manufacturer, but not by much. These shades were:
OD Dark Shade 33
M1937 Light Shade OD and,
M1939 OD, which is also the proper shade of OD for the M1939 Wool Serge Service Coat
Please NOTE that I am referring to Enlisted Mens', or EMs, (equivalent to the British Army's "Other Ranks"), clothing and not Officers' clothing items. Officers' clothing varied somewhat as to quality, but not as much in color. Officers' clothing had its own set of special colors and materials, according to Mil. Specs, but there were many Officers who could afford to have certain items of their Service Uniforms (Class A) "custom-made and tailored". Officers' Uniforms were more stylish and of better quality than the EMs' Uniforms, however ALL Officers' "custom-made and tailored" clothing items STILL had to conform to Mil. Specs as to design and a very close "approximation" of the required colors.
During WWII, US Army Officers many times wore certain EMs' clothing items in Combat Areas, for obvious reasons, these being the OD Wool Service Trousers and Service Shirts, "Parsons" Jackets, Russet Leather Service Shoes, M1938 Leggings, Web Gear, etc. In Rear Areas, Officers tended to wear SOME of their better-quality Officers' Uniform items, these being their own various Service Shirts and Trousers, which they "bloused" into their M1938 Leggings or their "Corcoran" Parachutist's Oxblood-colored Combat Boots, but they kept their "Combat Uniform" items handy for "just in case"...
High-ranking US Army Officers had much more leeway in what they chose to wear at any given time in Rear or Forward Areas, and this tended to spill over when they chose to venture into "Combat Areas". General George S. Patton was a classic example; he wore a veritable MYRIAD of different Uniforms wherever he chose to go...
EMs' Wool or Wool Flannel Service Shirts were also manufactured in several shades of OD, the lightest shade of which was sometimes referred to as the "Mustard" shade. Summer-weight "Khakis" and the M1943 Combat Uniform items are a different story altogether, since we were specifically discussing the US Army EMs' 1942-style" Combat Uniforms as seen in Northwestern Europe, circa Spring 1944, and in some cases, right on up to and beyond VE Day...
Thanks for your time, and I hope that I've clarified a few things...
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Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2019 - 02:44 AM UTC
Never too old to learn something new! (Unless you're a really old dog!)
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Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2019 - 05:37 AM UTC
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Never too old to learn something new! (Unless you're a really old dog!)
Thanks, Biggles!
I'm an "old dog" myself, and even I DO learn something new every so often!