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Another M1A2 SEP V2
Darkin
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 12:23 AM UTC
Another M1A2SEP V2
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MjM5MjI2ODQ5Mw==&mid=2695542432&idx=1&sn=e862045b38723e4efd0bef18b52c941d&chksm=83f6ff02b48176144fb73ff130175ce09205ce11c18fc726c7cc42253a7f5663a048c0926b71&scene=0&xtrack=1&key=fb11ae2cfa82dc98ef67152fc162081c3dd9db8453a7
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 12:43 AM UTC
Thanks Dariusz for the heads up on this new kit. It looks really nice. I have never heard of Vollo Models before, this kit is a definite maybe for me. Abrams are like Tigers to me, you can NEVER have enough in your stash
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 12:44 AM UTC
That does look awfully nice. Interesting that another manufacturer has arrived on the scene
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 02:07 AM UTC



Thank You, Dariusz!

Very, INTERESTING!!! This one could find its way into my collection of modern US Armor... VOIIO, hm..?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 02:15 AM UTC


Hmm, I'll hold judgement until I see a review that shows how it compares to all the other M1A2 SEP v2 models out there. Price and how it compares will be my deciding factors.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 02:40 AM UTC

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Hmm, I'll hold judgement until I see a review that shows how it compares to all the other M1A2 SEP v2 models out there. Price and how it compares will be my deciding factors.



Hi, Gino!

AGREE, of course!

I'd like to see a kit of the new M1A2C with TROPHY...
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 02:40 AM UTC
The initial advertisement mentions the Trophy RADAR and system in the translation, but I do not see any indications of Trophy parts in the photos. Am I missing something?
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 02:49 AM UTC
Hey, Everyone!

You know, I find it remarkable that no U.S.-based model-producing company has come into existence in the last thirty years or so in order to take up the challenge posed by the various Asian companies. Not complaining, but it IS kind of sad...

Market-trends, TAXES, highly-paid employees, insurances, "start-up", tooling and engineering, legalities and other "overhead", I'm SURE, have a lot to do with it...
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 03:15 AM UTC

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Hey, Everyone!

You know, I find it remarkable that no U.S.-based model-producing company has come into existence in the last thirty years or so in order to take up the challenge posed by the various Asian companies. Not complaining, but it IS kind of sad...

Market-trends, TAXES, highly-paid employees, insurances, "start-up", tooling and engineering, legalities and other "overhead", I'm SURE, have a lot to do with it...



Actually there have been a few, but they do all their manufacturing in China.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 03:21 AM UTC

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Hey, Everyone!

You know, I find it remarkable that no U.S.-based model-producing company has come into existence in the last thirty years or so in order to take up the challenge posed by the various Asian companies. Not complaining, but it IS kind of sad...

Market-trends, TAXES, highly-paid employees, insurances, "start-up", tooling and engineering, legalities and other "overhead", I'm SURE, have a lot to do with it...



And yet folks complain about the rising price of kits out of Asia.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 03:51 AM UTC
Strangest thing here is though, that a new company decides to bring out another M1 while the pool is already filled. Makes getting a name and a piece of the cake much more difficult I'd think. Especially for a new Brand.

Takom and Kittyhawk jumped in with less obvious subjects and they made ground quickly.
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 04:23 AM UTC

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Strangest thing here is though, that a new company decides to bring out another M1 while the pool is already filled. Makes getting a name and a piece of the cake much more difficult I'd think. Especially for a new Brand.

Takom and Kittyhawk jumped in with less obvious subjects and they made ground quickly.



Yes, they did. As did MENG and RYE FIELD. But they also released some pretty common stuff as well; dozens of different Panthers, Tigers and such. Oh, and excuse me; two new Shermans, one of which hasn't seen the light of day, yet...

So... ANOTHER M1 Abrams..? My GOODNESS!!!
M4A1Sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 04:49 AM UTC

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Hey, Everyone!

You know, I find it remarkable that no U.S.-based model-producing company has come into existence in the last thirty years or so in order to take up the challenge posed by the various Asian companies. Not complaining, but it IS kind of sad...

Market-trends, TAXES, highly-paid employees, insurances, "start-up", tooling and engineering, legalities and other "overhead", I'm SURE, have a lot to do with it...



Actually there have been a few, but they do all their manufacturing in China.



Oh... So let's see- That's kind of like HONDA, NISSAN and TOYOTA manufacturing selected models of their vehicles here in the U.S., but the money goes... Where..? Or, VOLKSWAGEN manufacturing selected models of THEIR automobiles in Mexico..?

Or, like REVELL and REVELL GERMANY doing their manufacturing in China..?

"Mommy, I'm confused!!!"

Do any of you guys recall the anecdote I related a few weeks ago? A friend and I stopped into a HARBOR FREIGHT, and just for a goof, I picked up a clear plastic package containing an American Flag. The tag attached to this American Flag read,

"MADE IN CHINA"...

Where does our food come from..? MARS???
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 08:51 AM UTC

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Strangest thing here is though, that a new company decides to bring out another M1 while the pool is already filled. Makes getting a name and a piece of the cake much more difficult I'd think. Especially for a new Brand.

Takom and Kittyhawk jumped in with less obvious subjects and they made ground quickly.



I guess it's a judgement call whether to go for a smaller slice of a bigger cake or a bigger slice of a smaller cake...

It looks good. They look to have gone for a simpler parts breakdown without sacrificing detail - more like Academy than Rye Field.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 09:39 AM UTC

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Strangest thing here is though, that a new company decides to bring out another M1 while the pool is already filled. Makes getting a name and a piece of the cake much more difficult I'd think. Especially for a new Brand.

Takom and Kittyhawk jumped in with less obvious subjects and they made ground quickly.



I guess it's a judgement call whether to go for a smaller slice of a bigger cake or a bigger slice of a smaller cake...

It looks good. They look to have gone for a simpler parts breakdown without sacrificing detail - more like Academy than Rye Field.



Hi, Ed!

Yes, it seems so, doesn't it? I for one would rather see less parts but with more sophisticated tooling to capture the fine detailing in a model. Naturally, this will drive the price up. On the other hand, the more extra tooling that's required to mold all of those smaller "extra-detail parts", the more that drives the price up, as well, because this extra tooling needs to be manufactured before the model is even ready to be molded. So there we have the conundrum.

Did anyone happen to notice all of the "Non-Skid Surfaces" on certain of the model's parts..? I'll bet that cost a bundle to tool, as well...

How do you fellows feel about the "Non-Skid Surfaces" and the way VOIIO(?)/VOLLO(?) chose to render them..? Under-done? Over-done? Just right..?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 - 12:16 PM UTC
Nice looking kit as Gino said wait to see a few build reviews.
Plus I have 2 Academy kits.
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 06:18 AM UTC
Wait.. are they painting M1A2's green now?
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 06:34 AM UTC

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Wait.. are they painting M1A2's green now?



Some of them at least

U.S. M1A2 SEP tanks with the 1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division move to the starting point of the platoon live fire event during the Strong Europe Tank Challenge (SETC), at the 7th Army Training Command's Grafenwoehr Training Area, Germany, May 12, 2017. :



H.P.
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 06:39 AM UTC
The color is RAL 6031 Bronzegrün.
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 06:59 AM UTC
So is that camo netting draped on the front in Henri-Pierre's pic barracuda netting? Thinking I want to try to replicate that but wasn't sure where to start.
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 07:02 AM UTC

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Wait.. are they painting M1A2's green now?



It was mentioned here before. It is a temporary paint used for sand vehicles when on Atlantic Resolve rotation in Europe.

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/258331&page=1
Frenchy
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 08:14 AM UTC

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So is that camo netting draped on the front in Henri-Pierre's pic barracuda netting? Thinking I want to try to replicate that but wasn't sure where to start.



Here's a better view of the net :



Full size

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 08:54 AM UTC
Thanks Frenchy. It appears it is Barracuda
HeavyArty
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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 10:16 AM UTC

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Thanks Frenchy. It appears it is Barracuda



It is standard US Military camo netting.

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Posted: Monday, June 03, 2019 - 11:13 AM UTC
Is there a way to increase the number of smoke grenade fires from the standard two sets of three grenades by having a larger launcher housing, and then increase the smoke grenade ammo container box size?

I am thinking more in terms of the USMC M1A1 directional smoke grenade launchers, or does the U.S. Army prefer their housing as it's more armored?

Have three or four firing sets of three grenades each might make a big difference and then increase the size of the smoke grenade box to correlate.
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