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West German Armor Circa 1962
long_tom
Illinois, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 10:54 AM UTC
I looked up and the earliest West German armor was a brownish green akin to Tamiya Khaki Drab. Did that still apply years later?
HermannB
Bayern, Germany
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Posted: Tuesday, July 09, 2019 - 03:28 PM UTC
Bundeswehr vehicles were painted RAL 6014 Gelboliv until the mid `80s. Then we switched to NATOflage.
long_tom
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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 09:52 AM UTC
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https://acrylicosvallejo.com/en/producto/hobby/hobby-paint-en/us-khaki/ Bundeswehr vehicles were painted RAL 6014 Gelboliv until the mid `80s. Then we switched to NATOflage.
Think this paint might be the right one, despite the name? Looks close enough.
Frenchy
Rhone, France
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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 09:54 AM UTC
This one may be a better match :
H.P.
H.P.
long_tom
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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 12:05 PM UTC
I did see an old thread on West German armor and it showed a group of tanks which had a brownish tone. But that might have been a case of photography not turning out right.
Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 07:38 AM UTC
Gelboliv is a strange paint. Depending on the lighting conditions it can look like OD, or it can be greyish, or brown-ish, or even a touch purple. And under museum fluorescents it looks yellowy green. And it tends to burnish dark wherever it rubs. It's a real "fade into the background" colour!
I tend to use Tamiya XF51 Khaki Drab as a base, with lightened XF51 (cut with XF60) as a highlight overspray.
I tend to use Tamiya XF51 Khaki Drab as a base, with lightened XF51 (cut with XF60) as a highlight overspray.