… experience with Vallejo primers are mostly negative. Only way to sand it (and by sanding it I mean only light sanding) for me was possible if I applied it in several VERY thin layers, leaving each layer to dry before next one. After the final one i left it to dry for 2-3 days....

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… experience with Vallejo primers are mostly negative. Only way to sand it (and by sanding it I mean only light sanding) for me was possible if I applied it in several VERY thin layers, leaving each layer to dry before next one. After the final one i left it to dry for 2-3 days....

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thanks. I understand it's a some love/ some don't product. I have 3 bottles so want to give it a shot. thin coats for sure. like the way it levels out.

I understand it to be a soft finish, but didn't know if water rinse would reactivate it to sludge!

thanks for the input and round-about encouragement!

Well, prepare yourself for a nervous breakdown...
My experience with Vallejo primers are mostly negative. Only way to sand it (and by sanding it I mean only light sanding) for me was possible if I applied it in several VERY thin layers, leaving each layer to dry before next one. After the final one i left it to dry for 2-3 days. Some people claim that they were able to sand it without problem, but again, my experience is not positive. Since I switched to Mig's One shot primer (aka Stynylrez), I'm the new man ....

Good luck.

Hi gents,

At the risk of getting myself chased off the forum and having my model builder’s club card revoked....(haha) I use Vallejo surface primer on most of the armor and figure work I do and it seems to work fine. It usually goes down fairly smoothly, and I don’t usually need to sand it that much - the big caveat here is that by the time it goes on I’ve tried to solve most surface irregularities - seams, gaps, glue debris and so on. I can usually get away with a once or twice over with fine sanding film once it’s dry.

For autos, or models I want a mirror like finish, I use tamiya fine surface primer out of the spray can - it always works fine (with Vallejo model air for the base color) - but, I need to spray it outdoors because it smells. That’s actually the reason I usually use the Vallejo - I live in a townhouse and don’t want to make my place, or my neighbors smell bad - or, if I’m painting in bad weather or at night and don’t want to go outdoors.

I’ve read lots of debates over this - with each “side” making strong points - but my conclusion is do what works for you and to each their own - oh - as noted above, clean your air brush when you’re done!

Cheers
Nick

That goes for his paints too, beads up spraying straight or thinned. Not your fault.

What Ammo Mig primer you brought?...because the One Shot primer should be the badger rebranded for Mig

https://www.migjimenez.com/en/acrylic-colors/932-one-shot-primer-white.html

Like also the UMP Ultimate Modeling Product same story,badger primer in different bottle

https://www.umpretail.com/products/ultimate-primer-120ml-grey

THIS is exactly the kind of stuff that I didn't want to put up with, which is why I've always stuck to my petroleum-based enamels and lacquers, and NOW the BLINDEY-FLUKING GOVERNMENTAL/ENVIRONMENTAL "people" want to take them off the market, entirely. Soon, we'll be using paints, their respective primers and thinners, and adhesives which will be made entirely out of "vegetable-matter" and which won't work, anyway. Of course, in the meantime, the "tree huggers" will get into the act and the "vegetable-matter" products will be banned, too!!!

are you guys decanting & airbrushing the Rustoleum & Krylon or going full monte spray bomb?

… when it comes to painting particularly, I’m no kind of veteran sprayer, as I’m more of a builder than a painter (and more of a researcher than a builder).

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THIS is exactly the kind of stuff that I didn't want to put up with, which is why I've always stuck to my petroleum-based enamels and lacquers, and NOW the BLINDEY-FLUKING GOVERNMENTAL/ENVIRONMENTAL "people" want to take them off the market, entirely. Soon, we'll be using paints, their respective primers and thinners, and adhesives which will be made entirely out of "vegetable-matter" and which won't work, anyway. Of course, in the meantime, the "tree huggers" will get into the act and the "vegetable-matter" products will be banned, too!!!

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This is exactly why I wish we had a Like button in these forums! You're a funny guy Dennis!!

Normally, I'm a Rustoleum (rattle can) kinda guy when it comes to my primer. It's always given me great results. This time though I'm about to paint the dozer blade assembly on my Takom M9 ACE. For this the base color is going to be Vallejo Model Air Steel so I'm going to try their gloss black primer. This will be my first time using it so we'll see how it goes. It's a good thing it's only a small bottle so I won't feel so bad if it's crap and I chuck it! If It's good then I'll be using it on the missiles on my SA-4 Ganef kit.

I'll see if I can post a pic or two Sunday or Monday.