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M1070F in US Army service?
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Posted: Sunday, August 04, 2019 - 07:28 PM UTC
I spotted yesterday some unusual tank transporters in Grafenwöhr Training Area. They were Oshkosh M1070F HETS with King Trailers, but wore the markings from 21st TSC. Since there was no personal nearby to ask, I wonder if these vehicles have been leased from British Army.

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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 04:01 AM UTC
Hi. fascimating pics. The trailers look like regular M1000 trailers.

I have seen pictures of M1070F being trialled by the US Army and these are either trial vehicles or maybe the army has bought new ones as the origianl M1070's are around 25 years old.

Incidentally, the British tank transporters are actually leased and are not permitted to be painted any colour other than NATO green.

Regards Jason
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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 04:09 AM UTC
Oshkosh M1070F tractor with King GTS 110/7 semi-trailer




Note the number of wheels on the trailer


M1070A1 with M1000 trailer
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Compare the number of wheels under the trailer with the King GTS trailer
The front ends of the tractors are also different, the bumper is one of the differences.
M1070F


"Oshkosh announced in October 2010 its first delivery order for the M1070A1 HET. This delivery order was valued at over $440 million and called for more than 1,000 vehicles, with the first vehicles rolling out in December 2010. M1070A1 fielding commenced in 2011. Production concluded in August 2014, with new vehicle production totalling 1,591."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshkosh_M1070
https://oshkoshdefense.com/vehicles/het-m1070a1/


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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 04:20 AM UTC
OOOOPS. I guess I was way off the mark, Robin ! Sorry H.H. I should have guessed you knew the differences between US and British HETs...



EDIT : I was so ashamed I've deleted my previous post

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 04:58 AM UTC
Interesting how the U.S. Army doesn't use the HETS to tow other kinds of trailers such as command modules or larger anti-ship, hypersonics, TBMs, radar, Electronic Warfare, or huge SAMs inside erector-launcher tubes.
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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 05:19 AM UTC
Hi Hans-Hermann, if I am not mistaking they are out of Baumholder military base! These are the leased vehicles from the UK, before an US military member is allowed to drive it, they must go through a special training.
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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 05:44 AM UTC

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Interesting how the U.S. Army doesn't use the HETS to tow other kinds of trailers such as command modules or larger anti-ship, hypersonics, TBMs, radar, Electronic Warfare, or huge SAMs inside erector-launcher tubes.


Like the UAE ones, used with the Jobaria Defense Systems Multiple Cradle Launcher :



Here's a M1070F in US service :

"Soldiers from the 51st Composite Truck Company, 18th Combat Sustainment Support Battalion, 16th Sustainment Brigade work to load vehicles at Camp Trzebien, Poland, for transport to the nearby railhead on Feb. 1, 2017: "



More trucks from the same unit :








More info :

https://www.army.mil/article/178080/51st_trans_co_strengthens_their_fleet_to_meet_needs_of_the_future

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 05:44 AM UTC

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OOOOPS. I guess I was way off the mark, Robin ! Sorry H.H. I should have guessed you knew the differences between US and British HETs...



EDIT : I was so ashamed I've deleted my previous post

H.P.


Huhh?? Which post??
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Posted: Monday, August 05, 2019 - 06:29 AM UTC

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Hi Hans-Hermann, if I am not mistaking they are out of Baumholder military base! These are the leased vehicles from the UK, before an US military member is allowed to drive it, they must go through a special training.


I was inside the cabin. It is sure difficult to get used to RH steering if your not from the UK.
Next question. Who will release an affordable M1070F/King in styrene? HobbyBoss do you hear?
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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 01:16 PM UTC

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Quoted Text

Interesting how the U.S. Army doesn't use the HETS to tow other kinds of trailers such as command modules or larger anti-ship, hypersonics, TBMs, radar, Electronic Warfare, or huge SAMs inside erector-launcher tubes.


Like the UAE ones, used with the Jobaria Defense Systems Multiple Cradle Launcher :



H.P.


I've seen that MLRS trailer before. That is around 240 rockets!

Imagine if each rocket was a SAM...now THAT is 240 SAM defense, each launcher able to rotate and elevate to a different axis against cruise missiles, bombs, warplanes, and the like. One trailer can protect an entire city from 240 targets and two trailers from 480 targets = unheard of!
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