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notches on lower hull on HVVS shermans
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Posted: Saturday, September 07, 2019 - 10:01 PM UTC
I was at the Virginia military Museum in Nokesville VA yesterday
they brought out their M50 Sherman they just finished restoring

After they ran it i was looking at it one of the things that stood out was notches in the lower hull edges where the inner wheels are
is that a mod on all easy 8 Sherman or just on Israeli Shermans
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Posted: Saturday, September 07, 2019 - 11:53 PM UTC
You can see them on US tanks as well :

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/dmitry_kiyatkin/m4a3e8/

http://the-sherman-shop.freeforums.net/thread/140/m4a3e8-76mm-walk-2

H.P.
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Posted: Sunday, September 08, 2019 - 12:31 AM UTC
Looks like add-on armour to me.
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Posted: Sunday, September 08, 2019 - 01:46 AM UTC
Yes, they all did.
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Posted: Sunday, September 08, 2019 - 02:20 AM UTC
They provided clearance to allow removal of the inside bogie wheels.

KL
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Posted: Sunday, September 08, 2019 - 02:58 AM UTC
Tanks built with HVSS came with the notches factory-made, but IIRC tanks upgraded from VVSS to HVSS (like in the postwar period) had to have these notches cut/ground into them. I assume corresponding metal was added inside?
KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Sunday, September 08, 2019 - 03:49 AM UTC

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Tanks built with HVSS came with the notches factory-made, but IIRC tanks upgraded from VVSS to HVSS (like in the postwar period) had to have these notches cut/ground into them. I assume corresponding metal was added inside?


No. The notches were small and were right at the corner where the hull sides overlap the floor plate. It's not a vulnerable spot (and covered by two bogie wheels and a suspension arm) so I doubt there was any perceived additional risk. It wasn't like the hogging out of metal inside the right front of the turret.

KL
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Posted: Sunday, September 08, 2019 - 04:22 AM UTC
Thanks Kurt - I wasn't sure if the area needed any reinforcement.
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