Some pics of the Special Forces Pandur WAPC from Syria.
https://www.gettyimages.de/fotos/turkish-offensive-syria-2019?family=editorial&page=6&phrase=turkish%20offensive%20syria%202019&sort=mostpopular#license
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SF Pandur in Syria

HermannB

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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 06:20 AM UTC

RobinNilsson


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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 09:48 AM UTC
The link only shows two arrows, 'Zurück' and 'Weiter'
and when I click on them I get this:
Geben Sie bitte einen Wert zwischen 1 und 2 ein
and when I click on them I get this:
Geben Sie bitte einen Wert zwischen 1 und 2 ein

ptruhe


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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 09:52 AM UTC

RobinNilsson


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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 10:26 AM UTC
Thanks!
Much better
Much better


Trisaw

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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 10:31 AM UTC
https://special-ops.org/52019/american-special-operations-forces-to-retreat-from-northern-syria
Another photo.
There is a short Twitter video of the Pandur driving down a road but I can't find it now.
USSOCOM is actually looking for a replacement as the SOF Pandur is getting old. Pandur II is released and the USSOCOM use Pandur Is.
Another photo.
There is a short Twitter video of the Pandur driving down a road but I can't find it now.
USSOCOM is actually looking for a replacement as the SOF Pandur is getting old. Pandur II is released and the USSOCOM use Pandur Is.

Frenchy

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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 10:41 AM UTC

Here's one with a bit more punch

Quoted Text
https://special-ops.org/52019/american-special-operations-forces-to-retreat-from-northern-syria
Another photo.
Look like Strykers to me...
H.P.

RobinNilsson


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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 11:15 AM UTC
Shared ancestry:
"The Pandur II 8x8 is an improved modular all-wheel-drive version of the Pandur 6x6 APC wheeled armoured vehicle. It was developed as a private venture by the Austrian company Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeuge and is currently[when?] in production for the Portuguese Armed Forces. Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeuge is part of General Dynamics European Land Combat Systems, which is also the parent company of MOWAG of Switzerland and Santa Bárbara Sistemas of Spain"
The Pandurs in these images are 6x6 while the Strykers are 8x8. The Piranha (ancestor of Stryker) also had a 6x6 variant (known as Husky in the land of snow) and the Pandur has an 88 version. There was (is??) also a 4x4 variant of the Piranha.
Similarity:
Box with sloped sides for improved armour, wheels underneath and hatches and stuff on top. Front should be pointy for better armour effect and improved handling while swimming. Oh, and use flat panels to make production easier/cheaper.
The German Fuchs and the Finnish Sisu are also similar to some degree. Angled flat plates were already on the WW II Sd.Kfz. 232 and variants, so it is an old design pattern.
/ Robin
"The Pandur II 8x8 is an improved modular all-wheel-drive version of the Pandur 6x6 APC wheeled armoured vehicle. It was developed as a private venture by the Austrian company Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeuge and is currently[when?] in production for the Portuguese Armed Forces. Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeuge is part of General Dynamics European Land Combat Systems, which is also the parent company of MOWAG of Switzerland and Santa Bárbara Sistemas of Spain"
The Pandurs in these images are 6x6 while the Strykers are 8x8. The Piranha (ancestor of Stryker) also had a 6x6 variant (known as Husky in the land of snow) and the Pandur has an 88 version. There was (is??) also a 4x4 variant of the Piranha.
Similarity:
Box with sloped sides for improved armour, wheels underneath and hatches and stuff on top. Front should be pointy for better armour effect and improved handling while swimming. Oh, and use flat panels to make production easier/cheaper.
The German Fuchs and the Finnish Sisu are also similar to some degree. Angled flat plates were already on the WW II Sd.Kfz. 232 and variants, so it is an old design pattern.
/ Robin

Frenchy

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Posted: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 - 07:40 PM UTC
Previously used in Iraq as well :
H.P.

H.P.

Spearhead01

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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 06:06 AM UTC
Some one should produce this in 1/35, that would be awesome! 


LonCray

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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 06:40 AM UTC
It looks like somebody left a Stryker in the laundry too long. But I agree, it would be great to see it in 1/35 styrene.

LonCray

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Posted: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 - 06:42 AM UTC
And while we're at it, I'd love to see somebody 3D print that 'Arms of Victory' or whatever the Iraqis call the giant arms with the swords in so many invasion pix. In 1/35 I bet it would make some spectacular dioramas.

JavierDeLuelmo

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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 08:07 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Some one should produce this in 1/35, that would be awesome!
Certainly a model company showed interest in releasing it a couple of years back. Who knows...

nikon1

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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 09:45 AM UTC
Would love this in 1/72nd with appropriate figures.
Cheers
Charlie
Cheers
Charlie

Trisaw

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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 02:13 PM UTC
Quoted Text
There is a short Twitter video of the Pandur driving down a road but I can't find it now.
Found it. Here is the short USSOCOM Pandur video only at the beginning.
https://taskandpurpose.com/pittard-bryant-isis-syria-kurds-op-ed

HermannB

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Posted: Thursday, October 17, 2019 - 02:24 PM UTC
Thats Double-V hull Strykers, not Pandurs.
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