Hi All,
I found & then lost some pictures of panzer IV’s with field modifications with flak verlings, I am hoping to find the one I lost, which had a flak verling mounted down in the empty turret well.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks
Mike
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Field modified Panzer IV, flak verling

Tanksami

Joined: August 06, 2011
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 02:39 PM UTC
Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 04:51 PM UTC
Hi Mike,
The vierling cannot physically be recessed inside the turret well, its just too big.
Maybe you are thinking of this Wirbelwind without its shields.
https://i.imgur.com/WpByKzC.png
or
Dragon's Panther D with the vierling which is only slightly
recessed.
http://www.dragon-models.com/d-m-item.asp?pid=CHC6626
I believe there is also a model of the T34 with a vierling
but the gun also sits on top of the hull.
I have never seen a photo of the actual Panther D or the T34 in that configuration.
There is a photo of a Stuart with a flak mounted on it.
https://i.redd.it/72e48buj22r01.jpg
Dragon also makes a Hetzer with a single 2cm, now that is inside the hull
as the top is completely removed.
Photos of real vehicle and model:
http://www.materielsterrestres39-45.fr/fr/index.php/chars-de-l-axe-allemagne/227-les-bricolages/1164-bergepanzer-38-t-hetzer-mit-2cm-flak-38
Cheers.
The vierling cannot physically be recessed inside the turret well, its just too big.
Maybe you are thinking of this Wirbelwind without its shields.
https://i.imgur.com/WpByKzC.png
or
Dragon's Panther D with the vierling which is only slightly
recessed.
http://www.dragon-models.com/d-m-item.asp?pid=CHC6626
I believe there is also a model of the T34 with a vierling
but the gun also sits on top of the hull.
I have never seen a photo of the actual Panther D or the T34 in that configuration.
There is a photo of a Stuart with a flak mounted on it.
https://i.redd.it/72e48buj22r01.jpg
Dragon also makes a Hetzer with a single 2cm, now that is inside the hull
as the top is completely removed.
Photos of real vehicle and model:
http://www.materielsterrestres39-45.fr/fr/index.php/chars-de-l-axe-allemagne/227-les-bricolages/1164-bergepanzer-38-t-hetzer-mit-2cm-flak-38
Cheers.

Tanksami

Joined: August 06, 2011
KitMaker: 1,314 posts
Armorama: 1,217 posts

Posted: Monday, October 28, 2019 - 08:21 PM UTC
Hi Joe,
Thanks for the reply & the link!! It is the Wirbelwind without the shields, I had just never seen a turretless one with gun mounted & assumed it was a field modification.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks for the reply & the link!! It is the Wirbelwind without the shields, I had just never seen a turretless one with gun mounted & assumed it was a field modification.
Cheers
Mike
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