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Last known use of SdKfz 222/223's
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 09:27 PM UTC
Hi all, just a general hunt for info really. Does anyone know what the last recorded use of the SdKfz 222/223 was. What units had them, where were they used and in what capacity, colour schemes etc.... any help is gratefully received. If there were any picture links that would be great as well ... John
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 11:12 PM UTC
I moved this topic to increase the chances of a relevant answer.

/ Robin
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Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 11:19 PM UTC
Damn, I always forget to put it in right area, thanks for that Robin
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 02:17 AM UTC
I want to say there are some pictures of the 222 in the new Berlin Final Battles book. While I was squeeing and flapping at all the new (to me at least) Panther photos, I think I passed a few 222's.
Stupid busy at work and home lately, I'll look and try to remember to get back to you.

Drop me a reminder pm in a couple of days if I don't reply.
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 02:24 AM UTC
"German women doing their washing at a water hydrant in a Berlin street, a knocked out German scout car stands beside them. July 3, 1945"



H.P.
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 02:38 AM UTC
That frame antenna makes me think of Salvador Dali
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 02:49 AM UTC
Mike, that would great - thanks in advance, and Frenchy - top work, that is a great pic and shows it was there at the bitter end in some role at least. I can now start to play about with one I have had sitting idle and unfinished for a long while and experiment with different camo other than the early standard German Panzer grey finish. Thanks all ... Im not sure if I can get anything in the model by Dali though Robin lol
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 03:22 AM UTC
Art knows no limits ....
or so they say ...
/ Robin
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 03:47 AM UTC

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Art knows no limits ....


Bending the antenna ? What about bending the whole vehicle ?


("Truck" by Edwin Wurm, on display in the Lyon Musée d'Art Contemporain)

H.P.

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 03:53 AM UTC
Thats some serious reversing skill applied there lol
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 04:49 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Art knows no limits ....


Bending the antenna ? What about bending the whole vehicle ?


("Truck" by Edwin Wurm, on display in the Lyon Musée d'Art Contemporain)

H.P.

H.P.


A Mercedes Benz "caterpillar" trying to climb a building?
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 05:21 AM UTC

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A Mercedes Benz "caterpillar" trying to climb a building?


Nah, it's the new Mercedes Yoga.
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 06:17 AM UTC
Once again,, great pics, Frenchy!! Those women could always use the antenna to hang their clothes up to dry.
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 06:37 AM UTC

Quoted Text


Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Art knows no limits ....


Bending the antenna ? What about bending the whole vehicle ?


("Truck" by Edwin Wurm, on display in the Lyon Musée d'Art Contemporain)

H.P.

H.P.


A Mercedes Benz "caterpillar" trying to climb a building?


The new Mercedes Yoga, extremely useful in crowded cities where parking space is difficult to find ....
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 06:48 AM UTC
More Wurm's trucks

Sorry for the digression John

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, November 04, 2019 - 07:43 AM UTC
Lol ... thats ok Frenchy, this is what the site should be about, enjoyment with the hobby, getting some knowledge and having a laugh ...but my god...that artist is possessed.... he needs therapy
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 01:41 PM UTC

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"German women doing their washing at a water hydrant in a Berlin street, a knocked out German scout car stands beside them. July 3, 1945"



H.P.


Frenchie's pic is the best in the Panzers in Berlin book. They list 222 and 223 with Nordland in the final Berlin battle.
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Posted: Thursday, November 07, 2019 - 03:20 PM UTC

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Once again,, great pics, Frenchy!! Those women could always use the antenna to hang their clothes up to dry.



"Hang out your washing on the Sonderkraftfahrzeug line..."..

Hmm doesn't have the same ring to it does it...
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Posted: Friday, November 08, 2019 - 10:41 AM UTC
Cheers Mike for that info about them being used by Nordland in the final Berlin battles. That now gives me some good solid options and some possible finishes on the one I left to finish.
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Posted: Friday, November 08, 2019 - 10:58 AM UTC
Here's a thread about the Battle of Berlin where you'll find the picture I've posted with more info about its location and a small picture of another Sd.Kfz 223 in the same area :

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/archive1944to1945/grim-scenes-vehicle-wrecks-along-the-friedrichstra-t77.html

H.P.
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2019 - 08:08 AM UTC
H.P - thanks for the pic and the links, they now give me the scope to finish mine with a later camo scheme,knowing I wont be to far off.
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2019 - 09:25 AM UTC
They're seen in the 1944 Lorraine battles.

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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2019 - 10:51 AM UTC
Nice find with that image Marc, another great piece to reference from
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Posted: Monday, November 11, 2019 - 11:50 PM UTC

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Nice find with that image Marc, another great piece to reference from


Thanks. Just noticed, that it seems to be missing one of the grenade screens.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 - 03:33 AM UTC
Bulgaria received a fair number of SdKfz 222s and 223s. Some quick searching revealed that armored units belonging to Bulgaria participated in relatively minor engagements until the country switched sides on September 9, 1944. From that point, units belonging to Bulgaria fought numerous battles with the Germans, but one interesting article stated that the army continued using old and captured vehicles into the 1950s.

I am not sure if the original poster meant "Last known use in battle" of "Last known use in service" but perhaps some of those 222s and 223s in Bulgaria survived the war and continued in service for a time?
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