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AFV Club: M108 105mm L/30 Boxart
varanusk
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 09:46 PM UTC
The new M108 105mm L/30 is closer to be released and it already has boxart.
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If you have comments or questions please post them here.
Thanks!
ivanhoe6
Joined: April 05, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 11:05 PM UTC
I always thought that there was an R in howitzer 
Hope that gets fixed before it goes to press!
Spelling aside, a welcome potential addition to my stash.
Thanks Carlos for the heads up !
Hope that gets fixed before it goes to press!
Spelling aside, a welcome potential addition to my stash.
Thanks Carlos for the heads up !
mkp
Joined: November 10, 2005
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Posted: Thursday, November 14, 2019 - 11:19 PM UTC
Did the M108 appear in MERDC? I thought it was phased out in the US Army before launching the MERDC camo?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 01:12 AM UTC
Yes, it was gone before MERDC was applied in the mid-late '70s. The pattern shown on the AFV Club boxtop is not MERDC though. It looks to be a one-off done by a crew in Vietnam with black camo applied over standard dark green. It is also the same decals/marking option shown on the boxtop of the latest version released by Italeri. It would have been nice if they picked some other vehicle so we have more marking options.
It apparently lasted long enough in the ROC Army to have modern NATO camo applied though.
It apparently lasted long enough in the ROC Army to have modern NATO camo applied though.
petbat
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 07:51 AM UTC
The one shown on the Italeri kit box top above, and also included in the AFV Club options, is not a vehicle in US use. Note the decal options stated on the box tops.
Those are the 'Rising Sun' badge of the Australian Army and the Aussie Flag.
It is one of a handful of M108 that were leased to Australia during the Vietnam War... and I believe it is not black paint. I am told it is standard US OD with the camo of Australian Lusterless Olive Drab being the lighter colour.
The US ARMY and serial numbers were painted over, Australian Regn numbers and camo applied by the crew.
For me, it is a very welcome addition, as an option to plain old US OD, in a more updated kit release of the vehicle. This is on my to get list for this reason.
Those are the 'Rising Sun' badge of the Australian Army and the Aussie Flag.
It is one of a handful of M108 that were leased to Australia during the Vietnam War... and I believe it is not black paint. I am told it is standard US OD with the camo of Australian Lusterless Olive Drab being the lighter colour.
The US ARMY and serial numbers were painted over, Australian Regn numbers and camo applied by the crew.
For me, it is a very welcome addition, as an option to plain old US OD, in a more updated kit release of the vehicle. This is on my to get list for this reason.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 08:04 AM UTC
That does make more sense. At least Italeri got the markings right and covered the "US ARMY" stencils on thier version.
2-32sherman
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 08:29 AM UTC
The Royal Belgium Army used the M108 until late 1980-ties.
I'll get me this nice kit and I'll build it as a Belgian one.
Big steps ahead of the old Italeri kit!
Great news!
Thanks for sharing these great news!
I'll get me this nice kit and I'll build it as a Belgian one.
Big steps ahead of the old Italeri kit!
Great news!
Thanks for sharing these great news!
petbat
Joined: August 06, 2005
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 08:30 AM UTC
Quoted Text
I always thought that there was an R in howitzer
Hope that gets fixed before it goes to press!
Unlikely based on past issues with English:
system
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 10:10 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextI always thought that there was an R in howitzer
Hope that gets fixed before it goes to press!
Unlikely based on past issues with English
That's nothing. Their Leopard 2 tracks apparently come with '153 track links and 9 snow arousers'
Taeuss
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 12:19 PM UTC
Being a proud representative of the Far North I can categorically deny ever having been aroused by snow... though I do get kind of giddy as it melts come Spring.
zapper
Joined: October 18, 2005
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 12:24 PM UTC
An image of one of the six M108s Australia borrowed from the US Army 
More in this album:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/aodcurator/albums/72157614978859111/page1
Cheers,
/E
More in this album:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/aodcurator/albums/72157614978859111/page1
Cheers,
/E
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 12:38 PM UTC
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Being a proud representative of the Far North I can categorically deny ever having been aroused by snow... though I do get kind of giddy as it melts come Spring.
Snow leaves me cold to ....
pria2022
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 01:13 PM UTC
Love the camo pattern! Just hope movable hatches really mean movable like on their M-109 family.
varanusk
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Posted: Friday, November 15, 2019 - 01:57 PM UTC
Let's hope someone can read it here, as writing text for the news seems to be wasted time:
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Includes decals for Australia, ROCA, USA, Belgium, Brazil and Spain.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2019 - 06:29 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Let's hope someone can read it here, as writing text for the news seems to be wasted time:
Quoted TextIncludes decals for Australia, ROCA, USA, Belgium, Brazil and Spain.
I read that in the news item. What threw me was that the AFV Club color sheet still has the US ARMY markings (as does the boxtop), list the colors as green and black, and doesn't say who/what unit the vehicle belonged to.
petbat
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2019 - 07:45 AM UTC
anyone interested in doing one of the other Aussie vehicles, there is this one showing the call sign and shield added to the .50 cal. The painted over US ARMY is quite visible on this one.
petbat
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Posted: Saturday, November 16, 2019 - 07:50 AM UTC
Quoted Text
That's nothing. Their Leopard 2 tracks apparently come with '153 track links and 9 snow arousers'
Well a few tons of tank rumbling over you would likely awaken you too
pria2022
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 03:28 AM UTC
I wonder when it'll actually hit the shops?
gatorbait
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 10:53 AM UTC
Great little book about the Australians using these tracks .
"More Bang for no bucks" by Colin Campbell. I think he was commander of 6 Troop,A Sqdn, 3 Cav.
Book has a lot of illustrations, and the tactics used as well.
Check out www.m108can.com
"More Bang for no bucks" by Colin Campbell. I think he was commander of 6 Troop,A Sqdn, 3 Cav.
Book has a lot of illustrations, and the tactics used as well.
Check out www.m108can.com
Enfield38
Joined: May 13, 2019
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 01:33 PM UTC
Quoted Text
The one shown on the Italeri kit box top above, and also included in the AFV Club options, is not a vehicle in US use. Note the decal options stated on the box tops.
Those are the 'Rising Sun' badge of the Australian Army and the Aussie Flag.
It is one of a handful of M108 that were leased to Australia during the Vietnam War... and I believe it is not black paint. I am told it is standard US OD with the camo of Australian Lusterless Olive Drab being the lighter colour.
The US ARMY and serial numbers were painted over, Australian Regn numbers and camo applied by the crew.
For me, it is a very welcome addition, as an option to plain old US OD, in a more updated kit release of the vehicle. This is on my to get list for this reason.
All six SPHs were issued from US 1st Logistic Command stocks and were possibly previously operated by the 11th Armored Cavalry (Blackhorse) Regiment. 11ACR had upgraded to the larger 155mm M109 and the M108s were effectively redundant.
A photo in Colin Campbell's book shows 12U779 was already camouflaged when collected by 6 Troop from Vung Tau with the remainder wearing the standard US Army OD finish. Given the tight acceptance period of a few days, I doubt the RAEME guys had time to apply fancy paint in amongst modifying the gun traversing mechanisms for single gunner use. My theory is that it had been unofficially camo'd by its previous US Army user.
All six SPGs (12U713, 12U779, 12U792, 12U826, 12U892 & 12U925) retained their US Army registration numbers, no Australian ARNs were applied. The US Army titles were painted over by 3CAV after delivery to Nui Dat, almost certainly in LOD. It's possible that 12U779 gained some LOD at a later stage as a few colour pics with US ARMY titles painted over suggest a third green in the camo pattern. Regardless, the notion of black camouflage by AFV Club seems inaccurate. The base colour would have to be US Army OD, with a lighter green over the top?
All six SPHs ultimately wore the 6 Troop unofficial emblem of a golden wing holding a sword painted both front sides of the turret astride the gun barrel. The emblem was actually the ARVN parachuting Jump Status Badge.
Enfield38
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 01:50 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Great little book about the Australians using these tracks .
"More Bang for no bucks" by Colin Campbell. I think he was commander of 6 Troop,A Sqdn, 3 Cav.
Book has a lot of illustrations, and the tactics used as well.
Check out www.m108can.com
Another useful reference is the AWM film F03901 https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/C256047
Vodnik
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Posted: Sunday, November 17, 2019 - 07:01 PM UTC
taylorrl
Joined: January 31, 2019
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Posted: Monday, February 17, 2020 - 06:45 AM UTC
I received a review copy of the kit yesterday. I only had a few minutes to look at the kit and instructions. At first glance it looks like a great kit. I didn't see any obvious issues with the instructions. There are decals and painting instructions for 8 different vehicles in the service of 6 different countries. I'll be working on an in-box review this week. Due to travel, I won't be able to start construction for a couple of weeks.
Rick
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