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Posted: Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 02:41 AM UTC
Hi, I'm building a 1:72 scale Revell P47-d Thunderbolt, and tried future (actually a similar wax sold in Finland. I think Johnson sells the same wax with a different name in different coutries) for coating for the first time. It works fine, but after painting, coating with future, decaling, and covering the decals with future I decided to to a little wash with life color oil (black) wash. The wash seemed to work OK, but as I was applying it, I realised it was drying too fast and leaving blotches. I tried to wipe it off with water, but it was already dry. I even tried to wash the whole model with washing detergent, but with no results, the black blotches stuck to the models surface. I then drybrushed a little citadell silver to cover the blotches. After the acrylic silver was dry, I started to giving the model a final coat of future. To my amazement the black wash and the silver acrylic came right off as I applied the wax! Luckily I wasn't happy with the wash so I applied a thick coat of future , and wiped the loosened wash and silver of with water and a damp cloth. Finally I washed the whole model with warm water and washing detergent.

Has anyone had same kind of "problems" with future? This must be the first time this kind of reaction is helping me! Usually this kind of loosening of paint would make me want to say a lot of foul words.
Can this be because of the glossy surface I applied the wash on? Or what? It's strange as I first painted the plane with Humbrol silver, then painted several panels with citadel metal acrylics, but the acrylics didn't react with future, maybe because of the first silver coat?

But one thing's for sure, I'm not going use the same wash with this model again, as it must be completed before the annual model expo in Helsinki, 22th of April.
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Posted: Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 07:50 AM UTC
Hmm...I got some Johnson's "Kiiltävä Muovivaha"* from the nearest Ruokavarasto. Blue bottle with a teddybear-on-floor label. Worked alright for spraying, I did the exact same thing with decaling and oil washing as you without probs (with a brown acrylic basecolor). Did you thin the wax with anything or do something "out of the ordinary"?

* I almost picked the non-shiny version of it.
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Posted: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 03:37 AM UTC
The only problem I have a had was when I did not let it dry long enough..Is there any opinions on this?,


I always use 1 day inbetween future coats and 3 days for full hard cure before decals.
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Posted: Saturday, April 17, 2004 - 08:03 AM UTC
No, I didn't thin the wax with anything. I did the wash after one of two days (I dont' remember exactly) after sealin the decals. The effect was the same on all surfaces (the wax over the decals was fresher than the rest, as I only coated the decals prior to washing). I think that it might have been the glossy coat I applied the wash on? But everywhere people say that you should apply the wash over a glossy surface. (?)
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