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Dragon: Neo Panzer III Ausf.Mvaranusk
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Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Spain / España
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Posted: Monday, December 02, 2019 - 09:22 PM UTC
The second subject in Dargon's Neo Smart Kit line is a Panzer III Ausf.M as used during the Battle of Kursk in 1943.
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Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 10:25 AM UTC
Forgive me for not being up on current Dragon terminology but Neo tracks are what -link and length? I guess that's better than one alternative previously offered...anything else that's different from the earlier releases of this kit?
digger303
Australia
Joined: April 25, 2012
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Posted: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 11:13 AM UTC
Link and length also looks like a partial interior...fighting compartment maybe.
Posted: Tuesday, December 03, 2019 - 09:29 PM UTC
I want it!
jczeus
Germany
Joined: February 02, 2016
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Posted: Wednesday, December 04, 2019 - 08:49 PM UTC
My experience with Dragon kits so far: don't even bother when you don't have thoroughly researched the topic in question. I think it was Hamilkar Barkas who said that you have to be in a position where you can ignore the instructions.
The parts are mostly there, but you must know beforehand where exactly they go, and which ones to use.
I'm currently on the Sd.Kfz.7 "initial" and I have to say he's absolutely right. The instructions are a joke.
The parts are mostly there, but you must know beforehand where exactly they go, and which ones to use.
I'm currently on the Sd.Kfz.7 "initial" and I have to say he's absolutely right. The instructions are a joke.
johhar
Alabama, United States
Joined: September 22, 2008
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Joined: September 22, 2008
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Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 03:52 AM UTC
I must politely disagree with you on Dragon kits. While their instructions could be better, way better, I've managed to use them to build a couple of dozen or more.
Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 09:16 AM UTC
I've been building Dragon kits literally as long as they've been available, starting with the original Nashorn kit over twenty years ago and while they have steadily improved in quality (and cost!) the instructions remain dismally obtuse and simply difficult and overly compressed and complex. In short, the kits are great the instructions suck. Their propensity towards re-issue is understandable though irritating and I wish that they would spend as much time & effort on new kits.
nsjohn
Scotland, United Kingdom
Joined: July 26, 2018
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Joined: July 26, 2018
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Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 01:32 PM UTC
Earlier this year I built a M4A3(75)W and I am just finishing a M4A2 (76). Essentially the lower hulls are the same. Whilst the A3 instructions were okay, the A2 instructions were so bad I had to refer to the A3 instructions to complete it. As an example they completely omitted any reference to the separate mounting units (parts V5 in both kits) that have to be attached to the hull so the VVSS units can be mounted. It was simply a 50/50 chance that I built the A3 first, which should not be the case. Having said that I enjoyed building both kits more than some other manufacturers because of the quality of the molds etc
Posted: Thursday, December 05, 2019 - 01:52 PM UTC
I’ve only returned to modelling after a 35 year hiatus a few years ago. So, bring it on Dragon. We all haven’t had the same opportunities as those of you who have seen it before.
Taeuss
Manitoba, Canada
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 08:29 AM UTC
Best of luck following Dragon's instructions or, for that matter, other manufacturers' propensity towards over-engineering components so as to brag about the parts count. Or really silly colour scheme suggestions on purely-fictitious vehicles. Or simply getting it wrong. On the other hand there seems to be about an easy half-dozen offerings of virtually everything ever built, contemplated or sketched on a napkin. Truly the Golden Age of modelling is here and they want to milk it for every dime before we're gone. What cynical insight I display...
Bravo1102
New Jersey, United States
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Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 01:42 AM UTC
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In short, the kits are great the instructions suck. Their propensity towards re-issue is understandable though irritating and I wish that they would spend as much time & effort on new kits.
To be honest all these reissues are fine because many missed them the first time.
And they should be putting all their time and effort into revising the instructions