Hi all
I recently visited Saumur museum and made some walkarounds.
Four totally new and an additional series to a previous one.
Serbian BOV-3
German Kanonejagdpanzer 90 or KaJaPa
Belgian M41 Walker Bulldog
Addition to the BTR-70 page
French P4P
Enjoy the visit
Olivier
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bison126
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 04:35 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 06:40 AM UTC
Nice pics, thank you. Possible to see other pics of this P4P on "Warwheels" and "ulrich's referenzbilder" websites.
Do you know if chassis, suspensions and engine are different than the unarmored P4 ?
Do you know if chassis, suspensions and engine are different than the unarmored P4 ?
bison126
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 07:25 AM UTC
To my knowledge the chassis is the same. The suspension has been modified unlike the engine.
Olivier
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 12:21 PM UTC
Hi Olivier
That Belgian M41 is interesting, it's a late version with single roof pintle but has early all steel idlers & squared fenders, normally seen on earlier M41.
Was the serial number displayed? - There is normally a plate inside the drivers compartment on the left hand wall, with the serial number on it, or failing that, stamped at the top of the modification plate on the rear plate beside the tank/infantry phone.
It also has the late pattern smooth Commanders cupola, versus the early version with buttress's between the vision blocks. I couldn't see a cast number on the cupola - typically they are either in front to the TC's sight or on the left hand side of the cupola, below the sight guard, vertically aligned - perhaps you noticed it somewhere else?
Mal
That Belgian M41 is interesting, it's a late version with single roof pintle but has early all steel idlers & squared fenders, normally seen on earlier M41.
Was the serial number displayed? - There is normally a plate inside the drivers compartment on the left hand wall, with the serial number on it, or failing that, stamped at the top of the modification plate on the rear plate beside the tank/infantry phone.
It also has the late pattern smooth Commanders cupola, versus the early version with buttress's between the vision blocks. I couldn't see a cast number on the cupola - typically they are either in front to the TC's sight or on the left hand side of the cupola, below the sight guard, vertically aligned - perhaps you noticed it somewhere else?
Mal
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 12:37 PM UTC
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To my knowledge the chassis is the same. The suspension has been modified unlike the engine.
Olivier
OK thank you.
bison126
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Posted: Friday, December 06, 2019 - 08:32 PM UTC
Malcolm
Next time I visit the museum I'll check where the serial number is. Probably not before Feb 2020 though.
Olivier
Next time I visit the museum I'll check where the serial number is. Probably not before Feb 2020 though.
Olivier
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Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2019 - 07:26 AM UTC
Thanks Olivier
I'll keep an eye out.
Mal
I'll keep an eye out.
Mal
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Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 08:33 PM UTC
Thank you so much for the walk arounds Olivier.
As always a great ressource for modellers who don't have the originals nearby.
Well done mate!
Cheers
Walter
As always a great ressource for modellers who don't have the originals nearby.
Well done mate!
Cheers
Walter
bison126
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Posted: Sunday, December 08, 2019 - 11:34 PM UTC
Glad you like them. I still have some beasts to visit at Saumur.
Olivier
Olivier