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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 09:59 AM UTC
I haven't got space for a 1:1 but 1:35th would be nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brStayTKz3s

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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 10:14 AM UTC
I would just like to drive that thing one time. Yes a 1/35 scale offering would also be very nice.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 05:01 PM UTC
Before someone do a G-BKF, I would rather see a MULTI 2 PLS truck.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 08:35 PM UTC
have you noticed that on 3:20 the 4 rear wheels are turned to the other side of the front ones, while on 3:30 they all point to the same side???
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 09:14 PM UTC
Those cranes usually have steerable wheels and they choose configuration depending on what they need to do.
Steering front with straight rears
Steering front and rear to opposite sides to turn tight circles
Steering all to the same side to make the vehicle shift sideways without turning.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 10:04 PM UTC
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I see something similar show up at the industrial site where I work.

I see the large wheeled cranes at least once a week. I've seen Liebheer and Faun name placards.

A model of this I'd paint white or yellow with some contractor's name on the side. (whoever pays me the most for the model)
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 10:27 PM UTC
I don't think the regular contractors would pay extra for the armoured cab and stuff
The recovery equipment is not a usual feture for cranes working with construction either. They don't want to lug the extra weight around if they don't need it.
Czech fire brigades operate the AV 30 by Tatra which is the same basic principle, a crane combined with a tow truck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0troRodDys
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 10:50 PM UTC
The winches and recovery gear come in handy especially when they do a lot of work in the mud away from roads.

I've seen them bring in 20+ truckloads of platforms to set up equipment and also seen tow trucks go it when stuff gets stuck.

And I learned a lot about recovery as a tanker but no one ever listens to the security Guard.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 01:09 AM UTC

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I don't think the regular contractors would pay extra for the armoured cab and stuff


Depends on the neighborhood.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 01:17 AM UTC

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I don't think the regular contractors would pay extra for the armoured cab and stuff


Depends on the neighborhood.


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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 01:27 AM UTC
But no guns! Not even a Ma-deuce. It’s defenseless. Not good.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 01:28 AM UTC

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But no guns! Not even a Ma-deuce. It’s defenseless. Not good.


Maybe bring an armed escort for the really tough neighbourhoods?
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 02:07 AM UTC
I guess crane operators should be prepared to face angry people whatever the neighborhood, including angry car owners :



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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 02:09 AM UTC

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I haven't got space for a 1:1 but 1:35th would be nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brStayTKz3s

/ Robin


I don't have space for 1/35, that thing is huge.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 02:59 AM UTC
[quote}
Steering all to the same side to make the vehicle shift sideways without turning.[/quote]

It's called "crab" steering and is quite common on Rough-Terrain Variable Reach Forklifts commonly seen on construction sites.
In the control panel view at the 3:00 mark you can see the button to engage it.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 03:30 AM UTC
Touched a real one last autumn during Open day of the Bundeswehr. This is a real nice one! Asked the guard for the keys but they denied

This one is both cute and impressing. Wish I had a real one in my backyard...

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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 03:31 AM UTC

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Steering all to the same side to make the vehicle shift sideways without turning.


It's called "crab" steering and is quite common on Rough-Terrain Variable Reach Forklifts commonly seen on construction sites.
In the control panel view at the 3:00 mark you can see the button to engage it.[/quote]

And let's not forget the B-52 can swivel it's gear 20 degrees either way to handle crosswinds.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 07:55 AM UTC
Liebherr company has some good reference brochures.

https://www.liebherr.com/en/deu/products/mobile-and-crawler-cranes/mobile-cranes/military-cranes/military-cranes.html

Even with drawings:

https://www.liebherr.com/shared/media/mobile-and-crawler-cranes/brochures/military-cranes/liebherr-247-g-bkf-td-247-01-de05-2016.pdf

Who takes the challenge building this from scratch?

For the Quarterscale fans, NZG Modelle has some Liebher cranes as diecast models.

https://www.nzg.de/produkte/baumaschinen/liebherr.html
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