I used Vallejo panzer aces some years ago and did not like the colour.
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PanzerKarl
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 02:47 AM UTC
Got some German figures to paint and was looking at a good colour match for field grey,has anyone used Mig's field grey set?
I used Vallejo panzer aces some years ago and did not like the colour.
I used Vallejo panzer aces some years ago and did not like the colour.
GregCopplin
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 03:52 AM UTC
I used it, it works best with an airbrush. I thought the grey game out to light but field grey always had various shades.
Biggles2
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 04:16 AM UTC
I've used Model Color Field Gray and found it too greenish - but that may just be my perception.
americanpanzer
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 04:54 AM UTC
I've found field gray is rather elusive as a standard hue; some were closer to gray, others greenish-gray, others more green than gray. Google Images has a pic of 16 different tunics from a private collection and they all differ in some way. just my 2 cents 
Petro
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 06:09 AM UTC
Vallejo has 3 field grey variations too. Standard field green grayish, and 1 a little more brown. I forget what the other is but i do have it.
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 04:46 PM UTC
Thanks for your replies.
After looking at more paint options I think Revell aqua color has 2 possible colours.
Greenish grey matt
Matt Olive Grey
I know these paints lay down well with paint brush and easy mixed with tap water.
Thanks
Karl
After looking at more paint options I think Revell aqua color has 2 possible colours.
Greenish grey matt
Matt Olive Grey
I know these paints lay down well with paint brush and easy mixed with tap water.
Thanks
Karl
varanusk
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 09:41 PM UTC
This photo has become a classic... all original tunics:
Bravo1102
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Posted: Thursday, April 02, 2020 - 11:16 PM UTC
When it comes to clothing especially something so mass produced under such varying circumstances and then varying wear and care: There will no such thing as a standard color.
Fabric and dye just doesn't work like that. There are going to be variations.
Even something like BDUs in peacetime you'd have darker and lighter uniforms sitting on the shelf in Clothing and sales let alone over the years in actual use, wash and wear. So there were formations where they all looked similar but colors varied whether faded or worn or even discolored from ironing and starch.
So for every field grey paint from every maker out there, there are/were uniforms a it matches.
I thought MM acrylic Field grey was way to light. Then I looked at actual World War I uniforms and it was a perfect match. It also matches one WW2 tunic in the middle row of the picture.
Fabric and dye just doesn't work like that. There are going to be variations.
Even something like BDUs in peacetime you'd have darker and lighter uniforms sitting on the shelf in Clothing and sales let alone over the years in actual use, wash and wear. So there were formations where they all looked similar but colors varied whether faded or worn or even discolored from ironing and starch.
So for every field grey paint from every maker out there, there are/were uniforms a it matches.
I thought MM acrylic Field grey was way to light. Then I looked at actual World War I uniforms and it was a perfect match. It also matches one WW2 tunic in the middle row of the picture.
phil2015
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 12:04 AM UTC
Andrea Miniatures makes a field gray set with 6 different shades of greenish gray field gray. It comes in a dropper bottle (which I hates but that's probably just me). I use it generically to build a couple of different triads producing two slightly different shades of field gray, but for many 6 colors may be overkill.
Of the 3 vendors I've used with dropper bottle acrylic (Vallejo, Scale75, and Andrea) I think Andrea has the best paint quality. It's heavily pigmented but thins down really well and still ends with a very smooth finish. I have never run them through an airbrush.
GregCopplin
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 02:42 AM UTC
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Andrea Miniatures makes a field gray set with 6 different shades of greenish gray field gray. It comes in a dropper bottle (which I hates but that's probably just me). I use it generically to build a couple of different triads producing two slightly different shades of field gray, but for many 6 colors may be overkill.
Of the 3 vendors I've used with dropper bottle acrylic (Vallejo, Scale75, and Andrea) I think Andrea has the best paint quality. It's heavily pigmented but thins down really well and still ends with a very smooth finish. I have never run them through an airbrush.
I’ll say this, I love the Andrea paints because they do mix well, I do not love the vague directions on how to shadow and highlight. I also use there flesh paint set and that’s the one that gives me headaches. But back to the point, they have a great product when it comes to painting field grey.
phil2015
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2020 - 05:25 AM UTC
Quoted Text
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Andrea Miniatures makes a field gray set with 6 different shades of greenish gray field gray. It comes in a dropper bottle (which I hates but that's probably just me). I use it generically to build a couple of different triads producing two slightly different shades of field gray, but for many 6 colors may be overkill.
Of the 3 vendors I've used with dropper bottle acrylic (Vallejo, Scale75, and Andrea) I think Andrea has the best paint quality. It's heavily pigmented but thins down really well and still ends with a very smooth finish. I have never run them through an airbrush.
I’ll say this, I love the Andrea paints because they do mix well, I do not love the vague directions on how to shadow and highlight. I also use there flesh paint set and that’s the one that gives me headaches. But back to the point, they have a great product when it comes to painting field grey.
I never figured out how to use their flesh paint set either. I buy sets like that so I don't have to mix, but I couldn't figure out how to use it without mixing stuff. Now, I don't really need to have each guy looking the same when it comes to skin, but still, I never got the hang of it with that set.
RLlockie
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Posted: Monday, April 06, 2020 - 05:21 AM UTC
But notice the similarity between the 1935 tunics in the back row. The later ones certainly display more variation but by then the economy was under serious pressure. I’m not sure there is much value in comparing a 1935 and 1944 jacket and concluding much other than that the two were pretty different in composition and colour.
Lewis-Mrotzek
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Posted: Sunday, April 12, 2020 - 03:33 PM UTC
As someone who as hunted the elusive feldgrau for a over decade I can say there is no perfect match.
In my old age, I have started to enjoy a more grey and blue look for tunics.
Vallejo field blue 70.964 is a good starting point.
Mig's blueish AMMOF530 is another great launch point.
I find Vallejo's German fieldgrey ww2 70.83 is to green for my liking; when I do use it, I also use 70.86 for highlights.
Panzers Aces have 3 different "German uniforms"
Panzer Aces 333 is great for dark grey and or black if you like.
the second 334 and its highlight 338 are great for early war.
Finally the 3rd 335 and 339 are very similar to 70.83 but more olive, great for Russian
and late war.
I have been meaning to order some ANDREA paints, but they are hard to find in Canada.
Cheers
Lewis
In my old age, I have started to enjoy a more grey and blue look for tunics.
Vallejo field blue 70.964 is a good starting point.
Mig's blueish AMMOF530 is another great launch point.
I find Vallejo's German fieldgrey ww2 70.83 is to green for my liking; when I do use it, I also use 70.86 for highlights.
Panzers Aces have 3 different "German uniforms"
Panzer Aces 333 is great for dark grey and or black if you like.
the second 334 and its highlight 338 are great for early war.
Finally the 3rd 335 and 339 are very similar to 70.83 but more olive, great for Russian
and late war. I have been meaning to order some ANDREA paints, but they are hard to find in Canada.
Cheers
Lewis
PanzerKarl
Joined: April 20, 2004
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Posted: Monday, April 13, 2020 - 07:27 PM UTC
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As someone who as hunted the elusive feldgrau for a over decade I can say there is no perfect match.
In my old age, I have started to enjoy a more grey and blue look for tunics.
Vallejo field blue 70.964 is a good starting point.
Mig's blueish AMMOF530 is another great launch point.
I find Vallejo's German fieldgrey ww2 70.83 is to green for my liking; when I do use it, I also use 70.86 for highlights.
Panzers Aces have 3 different "German uniforms"
Panzer Aces 333 is great for dark grey and or black if you like.
the second 334 and its highlight 338 are great for early war.
Finally the 3rd 335 and 339 are very similar to 70.83 but more olive, great for Russian
I have been meaning to order some ANDREA paints, but they are hard to find in Canada.
Cheers
Lewis
Thanks for that I shall check out the colour codes.
Historex agents have a good line of Andrea paints.
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