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Meng: Warrior TES(H) Stowage & Accessories
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Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2020 - 11:18 PM UTC


MENG announced a stowage set for their upcoming Warrior TES(H).

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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 12:08 AM UTC
That's a very nice set - any idea of the price though as the prices for 'Meng' resin stuff can be incredibly expensive for what's in the box?

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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 12:10 AM UTC
Jerricans are not british, but american.
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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 12:46 AM UTC
They look awful.
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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 02:50 AM UTC
Is it just me or do the camelbacks look way over scale? Assuming of course it's not just the picture.
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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 03:48 AM UTC
It's not just you. The Camelbacks ARE way over scale. They look like either 54mm or a small 120mm.
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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 05:46 AM UTC
Not being familiar with the (real) equipment, I am grateful to the members who have pointed out the apparent scale issues with these items of kit; thanks chaps for the notification.
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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 06:49 AM UTC
I think the camelbak's may actually be Squadbaks which hold about 25 litres and are used to fill the smaller backpack style camelbaks, therefore they are actually correctly scaled
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Posted: Friday, April 17, 2020 - 04:59 PM UTC
Putting aside the matter of scale and price, Id question the relevance of these items as Ive not seen anything to suggest the Warrior TES(H) carried stowage in this manner. Id of thought it would compromise the effectiveness of the slat armour. Maybe someone can prove otherwise?
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 07:06 AM UTC
A bit strange. Doesn't Accurate Armour already have bergens.
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:16 AM UTC
https://www.amazon.com/CamelBak-90619-Squadbak-Hydration-Coyote/dp/B002Q1HD4C
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:18 AM UTC

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Putting aside the matter of scale and price, Id question the relevance of these items as Ive not seen anything to suggest the Warrior TES(H) carried stowage in this manner. Id of thought it would compromise the effectiveness of the slat armour. Maybe someone can prove otherwise?


Where else could they carry all the gear for the crew and infantry?
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 03:36 AM UTC

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Jerricans are not british, but american.



Not American. They are from Scepter Plastics from Canada. Only
used by American miltary.
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 04:22 AM UTC
While this is all very interesting & informative can anyone verify from experience or photos that the crews/infantry would carry their gear OUTSIDE the slats as pictured? I would have guessed inside, or on top of the vehicle as it would be less likely to be damaged or swept-off. Just wondering.
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 07:32 AM UTC

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Where else could they carry all the gear for the crew and infantry?



Id of thought it would be unlikely to carry gear at all, given the nature of conflicts today, stowage in a vehicle, and the logistical support of troops in the field. Its not as if infantry are in the field for weeks at a time, in enemy territory, without support.
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:15 PM UTC
True enough, but talk to any tanker and he'll quickly tell you that there simply is not enough room in there for them, depending on load, much less their gear. As such it all ends up outside, preferably in some form of locker, otherwise a canvas cover of some sorts for weatherproofing. It might get shot-up but hey them's the breaks. Better than tripping over it or it getting in the way as you scramble to load, etc. Besides, all soldiers "collect" stuff in the field and tankers are rather pleased with the fact that they can lug-out more than foot sloggers can which is why they end up with the coolest loot. Our local military museum has virtually its entire collection based around what the tankers hauled out on the engine decks of their tanks. That was, admittedly, WW2 but I bet that things haven't changed much and logistics only keeps pace in an ideal world. Notice how seldom that happens on the civilian side of the fence these days; not much better on the military side. Just a more interesting "ride".
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Posted: Monday, April 20, 2020 - 10:59 AM UTC

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Where else could they carry all the gear for the crew and infantry?



Id of thought it would be unlikely to carry gear at all, given the nature of conflicts today, stowage in a vehicle, and the logistical support of troops in the field. Its not as if infantry are in the field for weeks at a time, in enemy territory, without support.


It depends on the situation.
Here is a Pic of a Brad where the soldiers have been living in their vehicle a long time. https://www.valka.cz/files/bradley_143.jpg
Even in peacetime maneuvers crews have to have some gear with them.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 04:16 AM UTC
My point exactly; where else would something as necessary and bulky as a camelback or box of MREs go except in a bin/box/bag outside on the deck? I still can't see it being strapped to the outside of the slats, though as it would be too easily in harm's way even on maneuvers so where do they put it on this AFV? Any ideas out there? I'm leaning to the inside of the slats or the top rear deck, but I'd like to hear from anyone with photos or actual infield experience.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 04:23 AM UTC
It depends on the situation.

This is a Warrior from the invasion of Iraq that a buddy of mine was the TC of. All their gear was carried outside since they had a full compliment of troops and limited space. Granted, like the above Bradley (which was also from the invasion of Iraq; 3ID) they were living out of their vehicle for an extended period of time.

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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 06:44 AM UTC
There may be a mistake, at Hobbyeasy, the stowage & accessories is 27.06$US, and the kit is 37.24.

I think I will stick with my Academy set with AA slat for an early Gulf War Warrior, along with the Star decals to go with that (and all the other junk I've collected along the way).

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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 09:54 AM UTC
Warriors in Afghanistan (Op Herrick) should be operating from bases and would have much less stowage than Op Telic invasion.

https://twitter.com/staffsregiment/status/999732071923900416/photo/1
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 11:34 PM UTC
I'd suggest given the differences in the caps on the camelbaks then they are supposed to represent the 2 or 3 litre versions and not the Squadbak.

The bergens shown are the British Army 120l versions. I managed to find a video where someone fits a 3l camelbak to a 120l bergen. The camelbak is about the size of the side pockets of the bergen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYq5_U1C1RA
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Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 09:14 AM UTC
My thoughts exactly about the water reservoirs! Those would have to be carried by a tactical donkey when they're filled.
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