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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 05:45 AM UTC
Soga Miniatures announced their new figure set.
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ninjrk
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 05:59 AM UTC
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Soga Miniatures announced their new figure set.
Read the Full News Story
If you have comments or questions please post them here.
Thanks!
Soga is one of the manufacturers that makes you pick and build a kit just to have a vehicle to go with their figures.
marcb
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 08:24 AM UTC
Great news!
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 10:17 AM UTC
Great news... I am already thinking of splitting this team in two to fit two "scenettes" I am thinking of !! A beautiful idea and addition. Well done SOGA !
Biggles2
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 11:03 AM UTC
Hmmm...a couple of those figures could be used as recon, or observers, and some of the others could double as wounded.
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 12:21 PM UTC
Nicely done; can always use some good Commonwealth figures.
Black_sheep
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Posted: Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 06:05 PM UTC
These one will fit perfectly to my Universal Carrier with its RESICAST "dead tired" crew
BootsDMS
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 08:05 AM UTC
Chaps,
Sorry to rain on anyone's parade here but there are, regrettably, issues with the personal equipment (webbing) here; some of the positioning just isn't possible, and in other poses there are straps just missing!
Overall of course, nice stances - resting/exhausted figures are always - but do beware the webbing issues if you intend to purchase these.
Brian
Sorry to rain on anyone's parade here but there are, regrettably, issues with the personal equipment (webbing) here; some of the positioning just isn't possible, and in other poses there are straps just missing!
Overall of course, nice stances - resting/exhausted figures are always - but do beware the webbing issues if you intend to purchase these.
Brian
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 09:32 AM UTC
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Chaps,
Sorry to rain on anyone's parade here but there are, regrettably, issues with the personal equipment (webbing) here; some of the positioning just isn't possible, and in other poses there are straps just missing!
Overall of course, nice stances - resting/exhausted figures are always - but do beware the webbing issues if you intend to purchase these.
Brian
Ok, so as a non-Allied modeller who is interested in purchasing these (to go with an Axis wreck), can you, please, expand on this? I’m familiar with WWII Germans, not so good with Allies.
Thank you,
marcb
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 10:15 AM UTC
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Quoted TextChaps,
Sorry to rain on anyone's parade here but there are, regrettably, issues with the personal equipment (webbing) here; some of the positioning just isn't possible, and in other poses there are straps just missing!
Overall of course, nice stances - resting/exhausted figures are always - but do beware the webbing issues if you intend to purchase these.
Brian
Ok, so as a non-Allied modeller who is interested in purchasing these (to go with an Axis wreck), can you, please, expand on this? I’m familiar with WWII Germans, not so good with Allies.
Thank you,
Interested as well.
Also not sure if the webbing anklets aren't too high.
andyevans
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 07:26 PM UTC
These look great.
Still wondering what happened to the Ramcke Brigade figures and the US Para Jeep riders though, any news on a release for these ?
Still wondering what happened to the Ramcke Brigade figures and the US Para Jeep riders though, any news on a release for these ?
BootsDMS
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 08:39 PM UTC
First, I would just stress that I'm not carping for the sake of it; with a couple of tweaks these figures would be great but the webbing issues need addressing. If the equipment is moulded separately then there shouldn't be too much of a problem in fixing these.
Photo 1. Prone figure bottom left of picture. The entrenching took holder is shown centrally placed, below the small pack; this is possible to affix like this (see mention of adaptor strap below) but it would be at the expense of not being able to secure the waterbottle, as both ends of the cross straps – secured by the 2 buckles at the rear of the belt – are taken up with the entrenching tool holder. The norm would be to have the entrenching tool positioned to the left (as one looks at the picture) so that it is secured by the strap end (of the cross straps) underneath the front left ammo pouch and one of the ends at the rear; the water bottle – on the right hip – is attached by the buckles to the cross strap from the right hand ammo pouch and the remaining end of the cross straps ie the right-hand (as one looks at it) rear buckle at the rear of the belt. The picture seems to show (correctly) the waterbottle on the right hip but the securing strap/buckle arrangement needs to be adjusted (and the entrenching tool holder moved over to the left. This figure also appears to have his groundsheet or possibly gas cape secured directly to the belt; whilst this would normally be carried in the small pack I think I’ve seen pictures showing this secured to the belt as depicted (probably with string) so I’ll say no more.
I must add that there appears to have been an adaptor strap to enable the entrenching tool holder to be worn centrally yet still secure the waterbottle, but this would also have to be modelled though with an etch buckle and some plastic strip
Photo 2. Sitting Figure holding rifle. This figure appears to have the later pattern of rifle but this had a small spike-type bayonet yet somehow he has contrived to have a bayonet attached to his small pack, and the bayonet is the longer type from the earlier Lee Enfield rifle. There is no means of securing it in this way to the pack unless he has contrived to have loops added or some other method of securing it. This would be unusual although not unfeasible. Battalions of the British Army at the time would have a soldier who was qualified as an equipment repairer so this methodology could have been achieved albeit I would have thought rare. His entrenching tool also needs to be adjusted to reflect the positioning described above. What I think is overdone is the apparent ammo pouch creeping towards his armpit; I feel that the pouch in this position is shown too far. Of course, depending on how far the belt may have slipped during movement, the whole ensemble would ruck up a bit but I just think this one is done too much. If the belt is undone – as these are resting - then all well and good, but to my mind needs adjusting a bit.
Photo 5. Figure bottom left. The ends of the cross straps are missing from the belt buckles at the rear; as I’ve tried to describe these are used to secure the waterbottle and the entrenching tool respectively; admittedly the latter item is not shown here but the water bottle is so should be adjusted/modelled to show this.
I must just say it is nice to see the side buckles modelled on the small pack and the ends of the "L" straps (that secure the small pack). I also think that the anklets are about right - these were the days before it became fashionable to "blouse" the trousers with elastic bands; that said, when walking out it was the case that trousers had small weights added to give such an affect, but for combat, no. Nice to see studs on the soles as well though in the interests of pure pedantry, the number of studs was reduced (to save metal!) to around 7 I believe. I had 13 in my issue boots when I joined the army but this was not in WW2!
So, nice figures but some mods/tweaks required.
Brian
Photo 1. Prone figure bottom left of picture. The entrenching took holder is shown centrally placed, below the small pack; this is possible to affix like this (see mention of adaptor strap below) but it would be at the expense of not being able to secure the waterbottle, as both ends of the cross straps – secured by the 2 buckles at the rear of the belt – are taken up with the entrenching tool holder. The norm would be to have the entrenching tool positioned to the left (as one looks at the picture) so that it is secured by the strap end (of the cross straps) underneath the front left ammo pouch and one of the ends at the rear; the water bottle – on the right hip – is attached by the buckles to the cross strap from the right hand ammo pouch and the remaining end of the cross straps ie the right-hand (as one looks at it) rear buckle at the rear of the belt. The picture seems to show (correctly) the waterbottle on the right hip but the securing strap/buckle arrangement needs to be adjusted (and the entrenching tool holder moved over to the left. This figure also appears to have his groundsheet or possibly gas cape secured directly to the belt; whilst this would normally be carried in the small pack I think I’ve seen pictures showing this secured to the belt as depicted (probably with string) so I’ll say no more.
I must add that there appears to have been an adaptor strap to enable the entrenching tool holder to be worn centrally yet still secure the waterbottle, but this would also have to be modelled though with an etch buckle and some plastic strip
Photo 2. Sitting Figure holding rifle. This figure appears to have the later pattern of rifle but this had a small spike-type bayonet yet somehow he has contrived to have a bayonet attached to his small pack, and the bayonet is the longer type from the earlier Lee Enfield rifle. There is no means of securing it in this way to the pack unless he has contrived to have loops added or some other method of securing it. This would be unusual although not unfeasible. Battalions of the British Army at the time would have a soldier who was qualified as an equipment repairer so this methodology could have been achieved albeit I would have thought rare. His entrenching tool also needs to be adjusted to reflect the positioning described above. What I think is overdone is the apparent ammo pouch creeping towards his armpit; I feel that the pouch in this position is shown too far. Of course, depending on how far the belt may have slipped during movement, the whole ensemble would ruck up a bit but I just think this one is done too much. If the belt is undone – as these are resting - then all well and good, but to my mind needs adjusting a bit.
Photo 5. Figure bottom left. The ends of the cross straps are missing from the belt buckles at the rear; as I’ve tried to describe these are used to secure the waterbottle and the entrenching tool respectively; admittedly the latter item is not shown here but the water bottle is so should be adjusted/modelled to show this.
I must just say it is nice to see the side buckles modelled on the small pack and the ends of the "L" straps (that secure the small pack). I also think that the anklets are about right - these were the days before it became fashionable to "blouse" the trousers with elastic bands; that said, when walking out it was the case that trousers had small weights added to give such an affect, but for combat, no. Nice to see studs on the soles as well though in the interests of pure pedantry, the number of studs was reduced (to save metal!) to around 7 I believe. I had 13 in my issue boots when I joined the army but this was not in WW2!
So, nice figures but some mods/tweaks required.
Brian
Dmitri
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Posted: Monday, April 20, 2020 - 01:13 AM UTC
Dear Friens
Thank you friends for your feedbacks.
Dear Andy Evans
The kit with US paratroopers with Jeep is already on sale.
http://soga-miniatures.ru.com/index.php?productID=47169
http://soga-miniatures.ru.com/index.php?productID=47170
A set with German paratroopers Ramke is now cast and I paint the figures on box art.
Thank you friends for your feedbacks.
Dear Andy Evans
The kit with US paratroopers with Jeep is already on sale.
http://soga-miniatures.ru.com/index.php?productID=47169
http://soga-miniatures.ru.com/index.php?productID=47170
A set with German paratroopers Ramke is now cast and I paint the figures on box art.
andyevans
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Posted: Monday, April 20, 2020 - 02:41 AM UTC
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Dear Friens
Thank you friends for your feedbacks.
Dear Andy Evans
The kit with US paratroopers with Jeep is already on sale.
http://soga-miniatures.ru.com/index.php?productID=47169
http://soga-miniatures.ru.com/index.php?productID=47170
A set with German paratroopers Ramke is now cast and I paint the figures on box art.
Hi Dmitri, thanks for the reply and letting me know about the figures. I'll place an order very soon. !
Thanks
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Posted: Monday, April 20, 2020 - 06:11 AM UTC
Just in case people think I'm in the running for Moaner of the Year I've since been in contact with Dmitri to explain my comments further.
My only aim was to enable modellers to get it right, not least having worn/used (and cleaned!) more 37 pat webbing than I care to recall, I felt I almost had a vested interest.
Brian
My only aim was to enable modellers to get it right, not least having worn/used (and cleaned!) more 37 pat webbing than I care to recall, I felt I almost had a vested interest.
Brian
Dmitri
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Posted: Monday, April 20, 2020 - 08:32 PM UTC
Dear Brian.
Thank you for your criticism. We will make changes to the figures to make the position of the belts for the flask more correct. We just will not change the position of the large bayonet attached to the satchel of the figure. This bayonet is pictured in book Martin J. Brayley "British Web Equipment of the Two World Wars (Europa Militaria)". It was one of many books we learned about the history of the uniform of the British army.
Thank you for your criticism. We will make changes to the figures to make the position of the belts for the flask more correct. We just will not change the position of the large bayonet attached to the satchel of the figure. This bayonet is pictured in book Martin J. Brayley "British Web Equipment of the Two World Wars (Europa Militaria)". It was one of many books we learned about the history of the uniform of the British army.
Maki
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Posted: Monday, April 20, 2020 - 09:20 PM UTC
I think it is great to hear constructive criticism, and even more that the manufacturer is open to making changes to the figures based on the input. Well done guys!
Mario
Mario
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Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 02:05 AM UTC
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I think it is great to hear constructive criticism, and even more that the manufacturer is open to making changes to the figures based on the input. Well done guys!
Yes, bravo Dmitri in particular and Soga in general. Soga is a leader in 1/35th figures and should be commended for "getting things right."
Posted: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 11:05 PM UTC
Hi,
Just on the comments above. It is perfectly possible to hang the entrenching tool from the bottom straps of the small back pack on 37 webbing so whilst the arrangement might be odd it can be done. 37 cross straps came in normal and long sizes so one can also affix both the entrenching tool and water bottle to the same back strap, tight fit but again can be done. The ground sheet could be tied on or strapped on with some small utility straps. Infantrymen tend to personalise how they were their kit in the field so I don't really have any issues with these guys which look good and will make a very useful set of figures in plastic that are long overdue.
Al
Just on the comments above. It is perfectly possible to hang the entrenching tool from the bottom straps of the small back pack on 37 webbing so whilst the arrangement might be odd it can be done. 37 cross straps came in normal and long sizes so one can also affix both the entrenching tool and water bottle to the same back strap, tight fit but again can be done. The ground sheet could be tied on or strapped on with some small utility straps. Infantrymen tend to personalise how they were their kit in the field so I don't really have any issues with these guys which look good and will make a very useful set of figures in plastic that are long overdue.
Al
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Posted: Thursday, April 23, 2020 - 09:46 AM UTC
Reference the bayonet attached to the shoulder strap, if you look on You Tube there is a clip from the Ealing Studios film “Nine Men” which shows the bayonet worn in this manner. I believe it was an option to avoid having items hanging below the waist when tackling assault courses and the like.