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not getting a capillary effect on pin washing
MrchntMarine
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 08:34 AM UTC
so ive got this M3 Stuart im working on and its Future coated over acrylic and Im using Flory Washes to do some pin washing to the panel lines. Ive used this stuff once or twice before and gotten nice capillary effect - running along the seams, etc. But, for some reason, not this time. I put a drop down and it just sits. Should I water it down?
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 10:35 AM UTC
If the coat below is gloss it should run. Maybe it is more dense now because part of the thinner has evaporated over the time and you should thin it again. Or load more heavily the brush. Or wet the surface before applying it.
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 11:20 AM UTC
Joe: I stopped using Future because I found I had to put about 3 coats on to get a nice glossy, smooth finish and the fact that it seemed to build up and form a drip that would build up and form a lump when it dried. I know I'm not describing it exactly right.
If your gloss coat is smooth then I would go with Carlos's suggestions.
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 12:46 PM UTC
According to one modeler on the Large Scale Aircraft site, this product is not meant to be used
as a pin wash but it is more of a sludge type application where you fill in panel lines and then
wipe away the excess.
Being a water based product, surface tension of the water content prevents it from spreading on
its own.
Just sharing what I have read.
Personally, if you have painted and gloss coated with an acrylic barrier...use oils.
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MrchntMarine
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 01:47 PM UTC
Thanks guys. Brings up a good point - had these washes for a long time and may not remember those YouTube tutorials .... time 2 revisit them. I do remember them doing a little pin washing, but think back, as mentioned, I do remember the paint and wipe when dried also. Tks for the reminder!
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 02:38 PM UTC
I have the Flory washes as well, and in my experience, as already mentioned, it is typically used as a 'sludge wash'. However, just about any wash, if thin enough, should exhibit capillary action, even without a gloss coat. I was just working on a flat finished tank, and used very dilute oil paints (oils with very high percentage odorless thinner) and got great capillary action. I'd try dilution if capillary action is important to you, as it's not likely the finish is your problem, in my humble opinion.
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Posted: Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 02:44 PM UTC

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I have the Flory washes as well, and in my experience, as already mentioned, it is typically used as a 'sludge wash'. However, just about any wash, if thin enough, should exhibit capillary action, even without a gloss coat. I was just working on a flat finished tank, and used very dilute oil paints (oils with very high percentage odorless thinner) and got great capillary action. I'd try dilution if capillary action is important to you, as it's not likely the finish is your problem, in my humble opinion.

Great Curt - thanks for the confirmation and your help.
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 09:26 AM UTC

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I have the Flory washes as well.........


Out of curiosity - when you use Flory, by brushing, do get a bunch of tiny air bubbles? I have Flory but not used them a lot. I like 'em, but was wondering. Ive watched some of their videos and I don't see bubbling on the YouTube but I get it. Guess its not a big deal, because most of it gets wiped off anyway, but if I have a flat area and try to wipe the excess off I have seen some residual "circles" from the bubbling left over. I then use a dampened paper towel with the wash to kinda smear it.
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