All,
First off, I"m sorry for being so far behind the times, as I've been concentrating on airplanes of late. But..oh my! Rye Field are coming up with some AMAZNG kits! A modern Challenger 2 TES (can't WAIT for this kit to be available in the US at our home based on-line stores), several Shermans, at least one with an interior coming, a T34/85 (wish I had waited to pull the trigger on the new Italeri version...oh well, the Fruil tracks should work for either of these, no?)
Has anyone done any comparisons of the Rye Field Shermans with the Tasca/Asuka Shermans? I have several Tasca kits, and up until now, it was my understanding that Tasca 'ruled the roost' with respect to Shermans, but I know that Rye Field tends to do pretty decent attention to detail. Does anyone know, or at least have an opinion, on how the RFM Shermans compare (exterior-wise, obviously) to the Tasca/Asuka kits?
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cabasner
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Posted: Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 03:42 PM UTC
stephane
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Posted: Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 08:37 PM UTC
i'm not myselft a sherman specialist but i saw a building review by Frederik Astier in a french magazine and it seems that Rye Field have done a great work with their sherman. If Tasca was the best option before, the new comming is now the number one. Accuracy, detailling, workable tracks.... Rye field have a winner.
cabasner
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Posted: Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 11:13 PM UTC
Stephane,
Thanks for the response. If true, good news! The bad news is that for some of us, anyway, who tend to buy 'the latest and greatest' thing, because we may think that that particular thing may not always be available, oftentimes (these days) while that thing may NOT be available, something better is often around the corner! We live in a time of an embarrassment of riches, in the scale modeling world!
Thanks for the response. If true, good news! The bad news is that for some of us, anyway, who tend to buy 'the latest and greatest' thing, because we may think that that particular thing may not always be available, oftentimes (these days) while that thing may NOT be available, something better is often around the corner! We live in a time of an embarrassment of riches, in the scale modeling world!
ivanhoe6
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 12:45 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Stephane,
Thanks for the response. If true, good news! The bad news is that for some of us, anyway, who tend to buy 'the latest and greatest thing, because we may think that that particular thing may not always be available, oftentimes (these days) while that thing may NOT be available, something better is often around the corner! We live in a time of an embarrassment of riches, in the scale modeling world!
Curt, truer words have never been written ! That's why my stash is out of control. The fear of a kit I like disappearing only to find a newer, better release.
It is a great era for scale modeling !
TopSmith
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 04:08 AM UTC
Ah, that's what the buy/sell forum is for.
phil2015
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 04:20 AM UTC
I'm hoping they release separate workable tracks for the t-34.
Kevlar06
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 12:48 PM UTC
I’m also very impressed with Rye Field’s efforts. Check out my review of their Sheridan below, especially the added optional gear.
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/14832
And some of Bronco’s recent stuff is very nice too.
VR, Russ
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/review/14832
And some of Bronco’s recent stuff is very nice too.
VR, Russ
spitfire303
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 08:06 PM UTC
HI,
I am more a German WWII modeller but I can confirm that RFM rocks. I'm in the process of finishing their Pz IV ausf J and ... it is a beauty (and those workable trucks OOB!!)!
best regards
spit
I am more a German WWII modeller but I can confirm that RFM rocks. I'm in the process of finishing their Pz IV ausf J and ... it is a beauty (and those workable trucks OOB!!)!
best regards
spit
Byrden
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 08:32 PM UTC
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Rye Field tends to do pretty decent attention to detail.
They're not infallible. They've released three Tiger 1 kits with interior, and two of the three need a lot of internal surgery to correct them.
David
cabasner
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:18 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextRye Field tends to do pretty decent attention to detail.
They're not infallible. They've released three Tiger 1 kits with interior, and two of the three need a lot of internal surgery to correct them.
David
Understood David. I’m not that big on interiors, though it’s nice to have the option. As long as there is detail to be seen through open hatches, I’m happy. That’s what I’m doing with their ‘full interior’ M1A1, not intending to display the insides to any significant degree.
Seahawk
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 03:58 AM UTC
David,
You mention 2 out of 3 need work. In your opinion which one is the most accurate??
Thanks
Jeff
You mention 2 out of 3 need work. In your opinion which one is the most accurate??
Thanks
Jeff
RobinNilsson
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 04:20 AM UTC
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Ah, that's what the buy/sell forum is for.
The problem is to find a punter who isn't already aware of the newer/better/shinier kit ...
Byrden
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 04:45 AM UTC
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David,
You mention 2 out of 3 need work. In your opinion which one is the most accurate??
Thanks
Jeff
The most accurate is #5003, the "s.Pz.Abt.503 East Front" version.
It's most accurate because its interior is based on Tiger 131 in Bovington Museum.
Their "Tiger Middle Production" #5010 represents tanks from 8 months later. There was no museum Tiger to copy. They didn't understand all of the changes.
Worst of all is their "Wittman's Tiger Early Production" #5025. It's from the same time as "131" and you'd expect the insides to be the same - except for one thing that Rye Field either completely missed or chose to ignore.
That tank was a "Command Tiger". It had extra radios, moved radios, extra electronics, and many other changes. None of them are in the kit. Even looking at it from outside, the model doesn't match the real tank.
So, there you are. In the future, I believe, they will sell their Tiger interior set as an optional accessory, and the Tiger kits will all be ready for it. Whether they will address these version problems, I don't know.
David
PanzerKarl
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 05:10 AM UTC
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HI,
I am more a German WWII modeller but I can confirm that RFM rocks. I'm in the process of finishing their Pz IV ausf J and ... it is a beauty (and those workable trucks OOB!!)!
best regards
spit
I was going to get this kit but not sure if I should wait till the Miniart kit comes out and see what that's like,also there is the Border kit but I think that may come last out of the 3.
cabasner
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:12 PM UTC
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Quoted TextDavid,
You mention 2 out of 3 need work. In your opinion which one is the most accurate??
Thanks
Jeff
The most accurate is #5003, the "s.Pz.Abt.503 East Front" version.
It's most accurate because its interior is based on Tiger 131 in Bovington Museum.
Their "Tiger Middle Production" #5010 represents tanks from 8 months later. There was no museum Tiger to copy. They didn't understand all of the changes.
Worst of all is their "Wittman's Tiger Early Production" #5025. It's from the same time as "131" and you'd expect the insides to be the same - except for one thing that Rye Field either completely missed or chose to ignore.
That tank was a "Command Tiger". It had extra radios, moved radios, extra electronics, and many other changes. None of them are in the kit. Even looking at it from outside, the model doesn't match the real tank.
So, there you are. In the future, I believe, they will sell their Tiger interior set as an optional accessory, and the Tiger kits will all be ready for it. Whether they will address these version problems, I don't know.
David
David,
Appreciate your insight about the 'best' of the RFM Tiger 1 interiors. However, I'm not sure I'll be getting any more Tiger 1 kits. I am completely loaded up with Dragon and Cyber Hobby Tiger 1 kits already. Plus, a Dragon 'Porsche Turret' Tiger 2. My only concession to Tiger interior kits is the Meng Tiger 2 kit, which is on its way to me, but only because I messed up the Dragon 'Henschel Turret" Tiger 2 and needed a replacement... And, quite honestly, I've been fine with the Dragon Tiger 1 exteriors.
However, RFM has plenty of other vehicles that I'm interested in, as I noted in the first post here.
brekinapez
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:44 PM UTC
Quoted Text
That tank was a "Command Tiger". It had extra radios, moved radios, extra electronics, and many other changes. None of them are in the kit. Even looking at it from outside, the model doesn't match the real tank.
David
Are there any command tanks with an intact interior that survived to study from? How complete and accessible is the one at Kubinka?
Byrden
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2020 - 07:22 PM UTC
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Are there any command tanks with an intact interior that survived to study from? How complete and accessible is the one at Kubinka?
The Kubinka vehicle was stripped out and converted back to a standard Tiger in 1943. It's about as complete as the Saumur Tiger. They don't let you into it.
David
Lada_Niva
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 12:20 AM UTC
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HI,
I am more a German WWII modeller but I can confirm that RFM rocks. I'm in the process of finishing their Pz IV ausf J and ... it is a beauty (and those workable trucks OOB!!)!
best regards
spit
Your tank is indeed looking beautifull. Maybe you want to have a look at my projects that I did made in the past on Reddit? r/military_model_making and then clicking on 'finished' in the side bar?
Lada_Niva
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 12:23 AM UTC
Interesting to read about the different marks and brands and what the experiences are with them. I'm curious about 'Cyberhobby', can anyone tell me more about it? The name does make me think it is some type of gaming brand or so.
Byrden
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 12:34 AM UTC
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I'm curious about 'Cyberhobby', can anyone tell me more about it?
Fifteen years ago, when Dragon was a very big name in store-bought models, they began an experiment with direct online sales.
They launched the Cyber Hobby brand to sell via the Internet. And its products were not intended to be standard Dragon models, they had to be different somehow.
So, they took Dragon products and changed them somehow to make a slightly different kit in a very different box. Sometimes the change was just new decals, sometimes it was new parts to make a new version.
They also made it a rule that these special kits would be time-limited editions, never to be re-released. This was not such a great idea, because new customers join the hobby continuously and they don't like having missed out on a famous kit.
David
cabasner
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 01:17 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Text
I'm curious about 'Cyberhobby', can anyone tell me more about it?
Fifteen years ago, when Dragon was a very big name in store-bought models, they began an experiment with direct online sales.
They launched the Cyber Hobby brand to sell via the Internet. And its products were not intended to be standard Dragon models, they had to be different somehow.
So, they took Dragon products and changed them somehow to make a slightly different kit in a very different box. Sometimes the change was just new decals, sometimes it was new parts to make a new version.
They also made it a rule that these special kits would be time-limited editions, never to be re-released. This was not such a great idea, because new customers join the hobby continuously and they don't like having missed out on a famous kit.
David
Very interesting, David. I had always been curious about the name Cyber Hobby (or CyberHobby, Cyberhobby, Cyber-Hobby; the dashed version is what they call themselves on the boxes) myself, but never bothered to ask or research. Thanks for the explanation.
Dinocamo
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 05:57 AM UTC
The second half of the 2010s has some of the greater progress in modelling history, in my opinion.
The quality of the molding is better, the information are even more widely available. There are many gamers want to play, and game developers trying to nail, the most accurate look as possible. To profit on this, newer miniature productions have to step up their game as well.
RFM, Takom, Miniart, even Zvezda and Trumpeter are producing older miniatures in a whole new standard, be it with or without interior.
One company that I would love to see to move on as well is the HobbyFan/AFV Club. Their T-34 interior series was the one of the earliest(?) large production (no limited edition) for medium size tank with interior, and it is probably the spark coil that started the whole interior focus kits. Yet most of their release in the recent years are rebox.
The quality of the molding is better, the information are even more widely available. There are many gamers want to play, and game developers trying to nail, the most accurate look as possible. To profit on this, newer miniature productions have to step up their game as well.
RFM, Takom, Miniart, even Zvezda and Trumpeter are producing older miniatures in a whole new standard, be it with or without interior.
One company that I would love to see to move on as well is the HobbyFan/AFV Club. Their T-34 interior series was the one of the earliest(?) large production (no limited edition) for medium size tank with interior, and it is probably the spark coil that started the whole interior focus kits. Yet most of their release in the recent years are rebox.
alanmac
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 07:10 AM UTC
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They also made it a rule that these special kits would be time-limited editions, never to be re-released. This was not such a great idea, because new customers join the hobby continuously and they don't like having missed out on a famous kit.
David
Except that they have gone back on their rule, and released some of those so called limited edition white box versions kits within the standard Dragon range over the years.
For example
Byrden
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 12:43 PM UTC
They certainly build the same real vehicle, but someone could argue that they are not the "same kit" because there is some change to the provided parts. Or is there?
David
David
brekinapez
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 01:00 PM UTC
I have the Tauchpanzer with the snorkeling gear included, but didn't they release the Tauch without that gear later?
Also pretty sure the white box Grille is the prototype version, whereas the DML kit is the production vehicle. The CH kits seem to be lots of one-off variants/prototypes of their other kits mostly IMO.
Also pretty sure the white box Grille is the prototype version, whereas the DML kit is the production vehicle. The CH kits seem to be lots of one-off variants/prototypes of their other kits mostly IMO.
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