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Mission Models Paint - Fabulous!!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 06:10 AM UTC
All,

I have just tried spraying Mission Models paint for the very first time...and I am SOLD! I even decided to try a metallic color as my first time...Cold Rolled Steel. And this stuff is GREAT! I used the thinner and the poly just as the manufacturer suggested, and it sprayed beautifully, no issues with tip dry, coverage was perfect, nothing negative at all. I am truly thrilled, and looking forward to using this stuff on an ongoing basis! Really please with the entire experience.

I have nothing to do with the company, just wanted to pass on to anyone who may be on the fence about t wanting to try this paint. If you've been uncertain, please don't be any longer...get some and try it!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 10:01 AM UTC

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All,

I have just tried spraying Mission Models paint for the very first time...and I am SOLD! I even decided to try a metallic color as my first time...Cold Rolled Steel. And this stuff is GREAT! I used the thinner and the poly just as the manufacturer suggested, and it sprayed beautifully, no issues with tip dry, coverage was perfect, nothing negative at all. I am truly thrilled, and looking forward to using this stuff on an ongoing basis! Really please with the entire experience.

I have nothing to do with the company, just wanted to pass on to anyone who may be on the fence about t wanting to try this paint. If you've been uncertain, please don't be any longer...get some and try it!


How much thinning did you have to do? I've used one color so far on a Luftwaffe piece and it seemed to take a good bit of doing to get it thin enough to spray right. Reminded me of Tamiya white.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 02:58 PM UTC
I used about 30 drops of paint to 5 drops of thinner and 3 drops of poly. I sprayed in though a 0.3mm Paasche H brush at about 25psi. It was perfect!
brekinapez
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 03:26 PM UTC
Hmm, I'm using about 50/50 the last try I did but my pressure was lower--about where I spray Tamiya. It seemed thinned enough but did not like coming out. I will try kicking it up a few psi this weekend. I use an Iwata HP with a 0.3 as well.

Thanks for the reply. I want to like these paints as I hate having to mix my Tamiya to make Luftwaffe colors and my Mr Color seems bound and determined to go straight up my nose instead of out the ventilator. Locally my only other option is Vallejo Model Color and I prefer brush-painting those.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 11:59 PM UTC

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Hmm, I'm using about 50/50 the last try I did but my pressure was lower--about where I spray Tamiya. It seemed thinned enough but did not like coming out. I will try kicking it up a few psi this weekend. I use an Iwata HP with a 0.3 as well.

Thanks for the reply. I want to like these paints as I hate having to mix my Tamiya to make Luftwaffe colors and my Mr Color seems bound and determined to go straight up my nose instead of out the ventilator. Locally my only other option is Vallejo Model Color and I prefer brush-painting those.


If you read the Mission Model 'directions' (on their website), they tell you specifically not to overthin (specifically NOT to go 50:50) and that increasing pressure to between 20 and 30psi is needed. They acknowledge that this is contrary to what many paint manufacturers or users suggest. I found the pressure I stated to work fine, even for the bottom draw (syphon) Paasche. I would imagine slightly less pressure from a gravity feed airbrush would be sufficient, then again, your experience would tell you differently. As you wrote, I would bump up the pressure and see what happens.

I'm really surprised at your experience with Mr. Color, though. I am able to thin the Mr. Color lacquers to at least 50:50 with their leveling thinner, and spray at 15-18psi with my gravity feed dual action Mr. Hobby/CREOS PS-270 0.2mm needle airbrush. Maybe it has something to do with our climate. I'm in Las Vegas, where our humidity is typically VERY low, and the temperature varies from cool to very hot. I have not experienced any issues with Mr. Color regardless of time of year, though.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 12:44 AM UTC
I really like Mission Models paint but in some ways they are more of a chemistry project than paints, you have to mix them exactly per directions or they get really wonky.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 05:28 AM UTC

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I really like Mission Models paint but in some ways they are more of a chemistry project than paints, you have to mix them exactly per directions or they get really wonky.


You may be correct. I'll learn more as I spray more of their colors. However, even if your point happens to be true, it would be a worthwhile tradeoff to avoid the smell and potential health issues of lacquer paints.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 05:35 AM UTC

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I really like Mission Models paint but in some ways they are more of a chemistry project than paints, you have to mix them exactly per directions or they get really wonky.


You may be correct. I'll learn more as I spray more of their colors. However, even if your point happens to be true, it would be a worthwhile tradeoff to avoid the smell and potential health issues of lacquer paints.


Oh, no doubt. They are fantastic paints and I really like them. They just don't work like other hobby paints
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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 08:42 AM UTC
Climate might be a factor. I am in NW Georgia and our humidity is a good bit higher than in Nevada.

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Posted: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 09:44 AM UTC
I got 4 or 5 bottles last year to try, I mixed them according to the directions, and they sprayed great, super nice finish.

I went to go use them again about 5 months later and they are the consistency of oatmeal inside the bottle.

I am not sure about the shelf life of the paints, has anyone else encountered this problem?

Eric
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Posted: Friday, August 07, 2020 - 01:57 PM UTC

I also love MMP,no alchemy, I don't have to look at how the paint flows on the jar or what shape the drop has, pure mathematics, I count the drops of paint, poly and thinner and I'm fine, 25-30psi and every time I have the same result, both with 0.2 or 0.5 fan spray, tough and perfect finish,no shelf life problem or thick mud on the bottom.

The only problem I found is the Poly,very very susceptible to light and temperatures, if anything goes wrong it becomes like PVA and gritty,I have already thrown 2 bottles in the trash.

The first bottle i buy from HK the owner of the MMP told me that he must have caught cold on the plane ... ok .... but the second one I got here and I made it arrive in summer and by land and it was perfect , but I live in the tropics and here most of the year it is from 25 °c up and it was under the sun light ... thrown away too!....

Then a chat with the supplier who own a shop for airbrush professionals and a bit of research on the web and most likely the MMP is produced by the same company that makes Createx, high quality automotive grade paints for Airbrush (if true now i understand why it's soo high quality),the MMP Poly is identical to 4030 Mixing Additive Balancing Clear from Createx ... smell, texture and effect on the paint, even the seal, the bottle and the marble inside, same-same... but it costs a little less! MMP no, but Createx has a data sheet about the poly...

https://airbrushmegastore.com.au/images/stories/autoaircolors/sundries/4030-TDS.pdf

..and the store temperature range should be between 40 and 80 ° F (4.5- 26.5 ° C) and away from light!!!!

Now i keep my poly (Createx label) in my beer fridge,dark and 7.5°c always
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