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Ratchet chainfall
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 - 03:03 PM UTC
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iOWS235dB-M

Does anyone make a ratchet chainfall as seen in this video?

Trying to secure a load onto an M25 Dragon wagon.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 - 08:08 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, June 11, 2020 - 03:39 AM UTC
Accurate Armour.
A153 or A154 depending on time frame.
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Posted: Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 02:25 PM UTC

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Accurate Armour.
A153 or A154 depending on time frame.


While either of those will work for securing a tank, those are not what is shown in the Youtube video. The chain tighteners in those sets are turnbuckle style. In the video they are using actual chain falls since it appears that the tank is positioned close enough to the trailer tie down points. Chain falls are of course self-contained units with the chain permanently mounted within the ratchet assembly, whereas turnbuckles/strainers are independent assemblies that can work with any chain.
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2020 - 01:40 AM UTC
Ok, wondered what a chainfall was. We call it a come along. Might find one in the shop tools sets. Wayne
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2020 - 02:07 AM UTC
Tiger Model Designs sells a Come-Along Winch 35-11950 for about $6-7 usd.
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2020 - 03:14 AM UTC

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Ok, wondered what a chainfall was. We call it a come along. Might find one in the shop tools sets. Wayne


We use the word come-along for cable type ones - I think those are technically called cable pullers. Similar principal to the chain fall or chain hoist, but using cables. It is unusual to see in the video the use of a chain fall/chain hoist to secure the load. Not something we would do today. Today, chain falls/chain hoists are only used for vertical lifting. And come-alongs (as I know them, with cables) are simply used for pulling, definitely not to secure a load!
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2020 - 03:20 AM UTC
Which is why I suggested the Accurate Armor product. It does what is needed, and is period appropriate. Army folks are brilliant when it comes to using alternate tools/methods anyway. Well, most of them.
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2020 - 03:26 AM UTC

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Ok, wondered what a chainfall was. We call it a come along. Might find one in the shop tools sets. Wayne


We use the word come-along for cable type ones - I think those are technically called cable pullers. Similar principal to the chain fall or chain hoist, but using cables. It is unusual to see in the video the use of a chain fall/chain hoist to secure the load. Not something we would do today. Today, chain falls/chain hoists are only used for vertical lifting. And come-alongs (as I know them, with cables) are simply used for pulling, definitely not to secure a load!


Could it have been a case of dual-use? The ratchet chain fall is mainly carried for other uses and then has to perform this duty as well? Carry one piece of equipment instead of two?
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