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LonCray
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2020 - 01:11 AM UTC
So, there seem to be a lot of upgrades going on to the Stryker family of American wheeled AFV's. The big air conditioner on the gun Stryker, bigger fuel tanks, and extended fuel can holders, among others. Are these mods being modeled by any companies for sale? I would love to put some of those big AC units on my gun Strykers but they're outside of my limited scratch ability. I have several Black Dog and Legends stowage kits and one of the LAVIII kits has the extended fuel can holders but I want more!
HermannB
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2020 - 06:56 AM UTC
First, someone has to get close to Strykers and take pics and measurements. Hard to get these days, even without COVID19. Then some one other has to make masters or 3D drawings of the A/C unit.
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, June 18, 2020 - 09:38 AM UTC
I'm sending him my Stryker Walk around as I type this. I paid particular attention to the A/C unit on the MGS. Some of the PE from the MENG Bradley A/C Unit is useful for a scratch build as I did one several years ago. Can't throw perfectly good parts away...
LonCray
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2020 - 12:17 AM UTC
So I got 18Bravo's walkaround yesterday - I seriously didn't know what I was missing there. Great photos, great cost, and great service. I started going thru them last night and I'll go thru more tonight - worth every penny.
HermannB
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2020 - 04:51 AM UTC
I made my A/C unit from Evergreen strips, 30mm long, 7mm deep and 22 mm high.
@ Robert Skipper
Do you know whats the purpose of the two rectangular boxes behind the commanders hatch?
@ Robert Skipper
Do you know whats the purpose of the two rectangular boxes behind the commanders hatch?
Littorio
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2020 - 06:26 AM UTC
Real model do several sets including THIS one which includes the DEK, TFSS and MEK in one set with other stuff, all also available separately. Can't remember who but someone else also does some of these mods.
I've not found any one doing the A/C though.
I've not found any one doing the A/C though.
HermannB
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2020 - 08:21 AM UTC
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Real model do several sets including THIS one which includes the DEK, TFSS and MEK in one set with other stuff, all also available separately. Can't remember who but someone else also does some of these mods.
I've not found any one doing the A/C though.
Blast Models DEK kit is easier to work with.
https://www.blast-models.eu/fr/moderne/1466-bl35369k-stryker-dek-driver-enhancement-kit.html
What do you mean with "bigger fuel tanks"? Never saw anything like this on legacy Strykers.
HermannB
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Posted: Friday, June 19, 2020 - 11:43 PM UTC
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I have several Black Dog and Legends stowage kits and one of the LAVIII kits has the extended fuel can holders but I want more!
I don`t think that Black Dog`s parts are accurate. They are having a reputation of "making something that looks like...".
Their Ranger Landrover update set is pure crap.
LonCray
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Posted: Saturday, June 20, 2020 - 09:10 AM UTC
I really wish I'd saved the photograph because I can't find it now, but I saw a picture of a Stryker that had not only the 4-can racks on the back (that Legend includes in their LAV III set) but the fuel tanks themselves were larger - longer and taller - than in the kits. Both mods were on the same vehicle and I'm having no joy hunting the pictures down on Google now.
HermannB
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Posted: Saturday, June 20, 2020 - 02:29 PM UTC
Didn´t you confuse a Legacy Stryker with a Double-V hull version?
LonCray
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Posted: Sunday, June 21, 2020 - 04:31 AM UTC
It's very possible it was a Double-V Stryker that I saw; alas that I cannot find the photograph.
18Bravo
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2020 - 12:23 AM UTC
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So I got 18Bravo's walkaround yesterday - I seriously didn't know what I was missing there. Great photos, great cost, and great service. I started going thru them last night and I'll go thru more tonight - worth every penny.
Thanks for the comments. I'm always happy when people are satisfied with these walk arounds.
H-H: Two things - I just now read your reply. I'll check my photos when I get home to see what you are talking about. And I sent Lee and another gentleman yet more photos yesterday that were double V hull specific. Always adding photos - that puts this at over 1100 photos. In Lee's defense, the double V hull variants are no different from the waist up, so if you're not looking at the lower hull you might miss it.
MfG
HermannB
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2020 - 04:33 AM UTC
@ Lee,
you should be aware the the Stryker family went tru a lot of changes in the last 15 years. Even if you build the A/C unit for MGS, some minor detail changes have to be done. Best is start researching before you build.
A selection of pics can be seen here.
https://www.dvidshub.net/search?q=M1128+MGS&view=grid
you should be aware the the Stryker family went tru a lot of changes in the last 15 years. Even if you build the A/C unit for MGS, some minor detail changes have to be done. Best is start researching before you build.
A selection of pics can be seen here.
https://www.dvidshub.net/search?q=M1128+MGS&view=grid
18Bravo
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2020 - 07:08 AM UTC
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I made my A/C unit from Evergreen strips, 30mm long, 7mm deep and 22 mm high.
@ Robert Skipper
Do you know whats the purpose of the two rectangular boxes behind the commanders hatch?
Those appear to me to be power inverters to me. Just an educated guess. There are black and red cables feeding into them, and a shielded cable coming out. There are also ports labeled "supply" and "return."
I'm at the Stryker refit facility at JBLM almost every year. Those A/C units haven't changed a bit since I first photographed them. Other things may, but they haven't.
HermannB
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2020 - 08:11 AM UTC
Hi Rob,
I am referring to the reposition of the tool mount on the hull top and the extra camera on the left side of the gun housing. Not to mention the massive TAGS gunshield and the modified m.g. skate ring compared with the kit provided mount by AFV Club.
I am referring to the reposition of the tool mount on the hull top and the extra camera on the left side of the gun housing. Not to mention the massive TAGS gunshield and the modified m.g. skate ring compared with the kit provided mount by AFV Club.
LonCray
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 - 02:11 AM UTC
There's more in Rob's walkaround that I'm finding - the new driver's windshield assembly is bigger than the old one - where the old one was under the hatch, the new one is around the hatch so the hatch can be closed behind it. There's a camera (I think) on top of it too. And I don't think AFV Club included the gun shields on the MG mount on the gun Stryker, though I can't be certain. So many interesting upgrades!
18Bravo
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 - 06:23 AM UTC
H-H: As Lee says, there are a lot of details I don't list simply because it would take too long. You asked about those boxes which I still believe to be inverters, but yes- all of those other things you mentioned are quite thoroughly photographed as well, from every conceivable angle.
MfG
MfG
HermannB
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Posted: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 - 08:17 AM UTC
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There's more in Rob's walkaround that I'm finding - the new driver's windshield assembly is bigger than the old one - where the old one was under the hatch, the new one is around the hatch so the hatch can be closed behind it. There's a camera (I think) on top of it too. And I don't think AFV Club included the gun shields on the MG mount on the gun Stryker, though I can't be certain. So many interesting upgrades!
Hi Lee,
answer is simple, AFV cLub kit is old, about 2008 or 2009. TAGS was fielded later. Eduard did an OOP PE set that contains some of the stuff mentioned.
https://www.eduard.com/index.php?stoken=C57B52B1&lang=1¤cy=0&cl=search&listorderby=oxarticles.oxactivefrom&listorder=desc&sendSearchForm=1&searchparam=M-1128
LonCray
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Posted: Thursday, June 25, 2020 - 12:21 AM UTC
According to the Wings & Wheels Stryker MGS book, the two black boxes that say No Step are some sort of anti-IED devices.
18Bravo
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Posted: Friday, June 26, 2020 - 12:22 PM UTC
H-H, that skate rail for the MG is just to thinly represented in PE. There's a great trick for doing the teeth uniformly on a scratch built one.
HermannB
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Posted: Friday, June 26, 2020 - 04:30 PM UTC
Rob, I made mine thicker by glueing two rails together, of course need two PE sets.
HermannB
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Posted: Friday, June 26, 2020 - 04:31 PM UTC
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According to the Wings & Wheels Stryker MGS book, the two black boxes that say No Step are some sort of anti-IED devices.
They are perhaps for DUKE counter IED device.
18Bravo
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Posted: Saturday, June 27, 2020 - 12:18 AM UTC
They can be part of the system, but I still believe them to be power inverters or power supplies of some sort for it. SF GMV's have similar inverters mounted to the underside of the roof for their ECM equipment.
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