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New Tamiya KV1
TopSmith
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Posted: Tuesday, July 07, 2020 - 03:22 PM UTC
I see the new Tamiya KV1 is in at scalehobbiest. Anyone able to compare it to trumpeters KV1's.
MrNeil
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 02:52 AM UTC
Greg,

Piecing together the various features in the Tamiya kit, it represents an Oct/Nov 1941 production example with a very early 90mm-armored welded turret, ZIS-5 gun, Model 1941 (75mm armored) hull and two-part cast road wheels.

I've put my notes up on 4bogreen.com here
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Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 01:15 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Piecing together the various features in the Tamiya kit, it represents an Oct/Nov 1941 production example with a very early 90mm-armored welded turret, ZIS-5 gun, Model 1941 (75mm armored) hull and two-part cast road wheels.

I've put my notes up on 4bogreen.com here


Neil - Are the fenders the correct length and width? I'm hoping that the inevitable PE fenders and tool boxes that will be made for this kit can be used on the Trumpeter kits instead of the incorrect or hard to find PE sets from 15 years ago.

KL
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Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 01:46 AM UTC
Here is a build up-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTM_ZcKe1_g
marcb
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Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 01:57 AM UTC

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Greg,

Piecing together the various features in the Tamiya kit, it represents an Oct/Nov 1941 production example with a very early 90mm-armored welded turret, ZIS-5 gun, Model 1941 (75mm armored) hull and two-part cast road wheels.

I've put my notes up on 4bogreen.com here


Neil,

Solid review,

Wouldn't these all have had the welded armored ring around the rear turret mg?
TopSmith
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Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 09:36 AM UTC
So adding a cylindrical tank and a third tool box would be commonly found on this model.
marcb
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Posted: Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 08:38 PM UTC

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So adding a cylindrical tank and a third tool box would be commonly found on this model.


And these:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/YETCLN2JZ/kv-1-chkz-armour-ring-2-pcs?optionId=145165031&li=marketplace
KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Monday, July 13, 2020 - 12:33 AM UTC

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So adding a cylindrical tank and a third tool box would be commonly found on this model.


And these:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/YETCLN2JZ/kv-1-chkz-armour-ring-2-pcs?optionId=145165031&li=marketplace


I don't think it has been established that this turret - which Neil states is novel - has that feature, has it? The turrets with the reinforcing ring were all previously identified types (as I recall from previous discussions, which were rather disjointed . . .)

KL
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Posted: Monday, July 13, 2020 - 10:38 AM UTC

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Piecing together the various features in the Tamiya kit, it represents an Oct/Nov 1941 production example with a very early 90mm-armored welded turret, ZIS-5 gun, Model 1941 (75mm armored) hull and two-part cast road wheels.

I've put my notes up on 4bogreen.com here


Kurt, I neglected to go measure the fenders. I'll do so and add that to the notes on 4bogreen.

Neil - Are the fenders the correct length and width? I'm hoping that the inevitable PE fenders and tool boxes that will be made for this kit can be used on the Trumpeter kits instead of the incorrect or hard to find PE sets from 15 years ago.

KL
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Posted: Monday, July 13, 2020 - 10:41 AM UTC

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So adding a cylindrical tank and a third tool box would be commonly found on this model.


And these:
https://www.shapeways.com/product/YETCLN2JZ/kv-1-chkz-armour-ring-2-pcs?optionId=145165031&li=marketplace


I don't think it has been established that this turret - which Neil states is novel - has that feature, has it? The turrets with the reinforcing ring were all previously identified types (as I recall from previous discussions, which were rather disjointed . . .)

KL


The photos of the vehicle in Tamiya's box art do not show the turret rear face. However, the only turrets I've seen with the anti-splash bars under the side-facing periscopes but without the cutout in the upper edge of the turret side plates, have that armored ring around the rear-facing MG. Since I don't know for sure either way wrt the Tamiya turret, I didn't mention it as a fault or not. However, I'm tempted to add the ring to my build just because
marcb
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 - 06:12 AM UTC
Neil,

If the rear turret mg on the Tamiya kit is the same size as the Trumpeter kit, it should fit.
If not, contact the designer, and ask if he can design a Tamiya variant. Eelke is a great guy to work with.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 - 06:52 AM UTC
There is a tank in an outdoor museum in Russia with the features of the turret in the Tamiya kit. It has no armor ring around the rear mg and splash guards on the side facing periscopes. This may be the basis for what Tamiya decided to go with in regards to the turret.
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 - 10:44 AM UTC
I just finished this kit today!

I'm no KV-1 expert though. It fell together and was completely built in a matter of hours.

The only thing that bothered me were the radiator cold air intakes, which are just molded over plastic with a texture depicting the mesh wire guards.

That area should have been hollowed out with P/E screens on top, but this is how Tamiya does things.

It's a lovely kit.


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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 - 01:41 PM UTC

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There is a tank in an outdoor museum in Russia with the features of the turret in the Tamiya kit. It has no armor ring around the rear mg and splash guards on the side facing periscopes. This may be the basis for what Tamiya decided to go with in regards to the turret.


Interesting! Can you post a pic or a link to one?
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