Hi all
During the Indo-Pakistani War, several T-54 or T-55 of Indian Army were used with fake smoke extractors and fuel drums in turret and rear.
Questions:
- Were they T-54 or T-55?
- How the drums are fixed in the turret?
- The fume extractor are fake?
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2020 - 11:12 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2020 - 11:35 AM UTC
found this picture on Bing search
https://img.etimg.com/photo/56124150/1971-indo-pak-war-tank-bccl.jpg
https://img.etimg.com/photo/56124150/1971-indo-pak-war-tank-bccl.jpg
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2020 - 11:43 AM UTC
Hi Ted
Thanks.
This is a T-55?
Regards
Thanks.
This is a T-55?
Regards
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2020 - 02:38 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi all
During the Indo-Pakistani War, several T-54 or T-55 of Indian Army were used with fake smoke extractors and fuel drums in turret and rear.
Questions:
- Were they T-54 or T-55?
- How the drums are fixed in the turret?
- The fume extractor are fake?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1971#/media/File:T-55_tanks_in_the_Bangladesh_Liberation_War.jpg
This is a Wikipedia image of a T-55 with a dummy bore evacuator at the midpoint of the barrel, simulating the British 20 pounder seen on Centurions.
Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2020 - 02:40 PM UTC
Hello Chief,
From what I can remember, the Indian Army used two (2) regiments of T54 and T55 tanks whilst the Pakistani Army utilized Type 59’s during the 1971 war. I believe that the Sherman, AMX-13 and Centurions were used as well.
In order to avoid fratricide, the Indian Army mounted a large drum or barrel to the rear of their turrets and a smaller but noticeable barrel to the main guns.
Respectfully,
Allen
From what I can remember, the Indian Army used two (2) regiments of T54 and T55 tanks whilst the Pakistani Army utilized Type 59’s during the 1971 war. I believe that the Sherman, AMX-13 and Centurions were used as well.
In order to avoid fratricide, the Indian Army mounted a large drum or barrel to the rear of their turrets and a smaller but noticeable barrel to the main guns.
Respectfully,
Allen
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2020 - 08:30 PM UTC
Just a few period pics :
Full size
Some tanks retained their fake extractor after the war.
This picture has been taken at the army's firing range in Ahmednagar, Maharashtra on 02 January 2006 :
Looks like there are several variants of the fake extractor, and its location varies as well...
H.P.
Full size
Some tanks retained their fake extractor after the war.
This picture has been taken at the army's firing range in Ahmednagar, Maharashtra on 02 January 2006 :
Looks like there are several variants of the fake extractor, and its location varies as well...
H.P.
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2020 - 11:57 PM UTC
Great pictures. However the last three tanks seem to have 105mm L7 barrels, so they might undergo a similar upgrade like Tiran 4/5.
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Posted: Friday, September 18, 2020 - 01:35 AM UTC
The fake bore evacuator and oil drum at the turret tear, were to distinguish them from T-54/ 55's in Pakistani service.
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Posted: Friday, September 18, 2020 - 03:24 AM UTC
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Great pictures. However the last three tanks seem to have 105mm L7 barrels, so they might undergo a similar upgrade like Tiran 4/5.
You may be right...So the captions were wrong They indeed look like upgraded T-55's (Project Gulmohar) such as this one :
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/t-55.htm
H.P.
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Posted: Friday, September 18, 2020 - 07:30 PM UTC
The visual differences that can be seen from front/side photos are the cupola for the air outlet on the turret, on T-54 only, and a protective half rim around the commander's cupola, that should be absent on T-54, or made with a welded curved bar, while on T-55s this rim was merged into the cupola's casting.
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2020 - 04:07 AM UTC
Hi
Many thanks to all for the great help.
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Many thanks to all for the great help.
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