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bergstiger
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 02:11 AM UTC
#:-) I have a notion to try a bit of a kitbash /scratch build.
What I have is the bed of a HEMIT and a idea. So here is what I am looking for.
1. A link to the designationof this trailer.
2.Some few referances to the real thing.
3.Some input as to how I might begine the chassie, and some notion as to what what other kits might contribute bits and pices that would fill it up,i.e. wheels and tires,how to go about scratching the frame &the hook up to the towing HEMIT.

All input would be sincerly appreciated. Thank you!
matt
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 04:07 AM UTC
You may be able to find the TM's for them on the web still (not sure).
bergstiger
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 06:08 AM UTC
:-) So far so very good.
Maj rob I was woundering if you provide a bit of information. Is the Bed of the M989a1 the same size as far as depth as the M985 Hemitt.
Any orther infomation you might be inclined to offer would be most weclome.
VoodooChild
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 07:57 AM UTC
Hi

The M989A1 is the modern version of this trailer - there a number of photos of this on the web and you can find the TM at http://www.logsa.army.mil/etms/online.htm.
It is manufactured by SEISTL and you can find some dimensioned drawings on their site at http://www.seistl.com/products/trans/hemat.html, http://www.seistl.com/images/pdf/hemat.pdf

The M989 was used in Desert Storm in 1991 (you can see one in the background on DML's MLRS box) and looks completely different to the A1. There are very few pictures of this on the web - there are a few small ones in the HEMTT section of the Oshkosh website, but not much else. There is also a clear photo of a HEMTT and M989 in the Verlinden book on the MLRS.
The best references for the M989 comes from the TM, available from LOGSA (although some of the drawings are a bit suspect - see below). There is also a line drawing in TB43-0209 - COLOR, MARKING, AND CAMOUFLAGE PAINTING OF MILITARY VEHICLES, CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AND MATERIALS HANDLING EQUIPMENT, also available from LOGSA.
Unfortunately, the line drawings and the TM show conflicting shapes for the back of the trailer, and none of the photos show this area. Some the 'detailed' diagrams in the TM seem a bit generic - IIRC I saw the same tyre-changing diagram in both the M989 TM and the M925 truck TM.

A while ago I set out to make a CAD model and detailed plans for the M989. I finished about 70% of the CAD and actually built part of the frame before I decided to put it away until I found more references - if anyone can help me in this regard, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I posted some images of the CAD model here: http://groups.msn.com/armorama/edcarmansalbum.msnw

Cheers
Ed
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 11:51 AM UTC
M989 trailer is still used. We had a mix of both M989 and M989A1trailers when 1-39 FA (MLRS), 3ID was in Iraq for OIF. We drew our equipment from PrePo stocks out of Kuwait. The M989 is really bad at flipping over. We lost 5 or 6 trailers and all the rockets on them when they flipped at different times. That is why the M989A1 was brought into service. It has a lower center of gravity and doesn't flip as easily.
pascalbausset
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 06:43 PM UTC
Hi to all,

Here is a pic from a M989A1 Hemat



Some more on my webshots page
Cheers

pascal
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Posted: Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 06:48 PM UTC
Sorry, but link dont go. I try again.


bergstiger
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Posted: Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 08:44 AM UTC
Thank you all so very much.The infomation is of great value.
Now if I can only figure out how to get some of the right type of wheeled tires.
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